A quote

[cjames]

"My belief is that the truth is a truth until you organize it, and then becomes a lie. I don't think that Jesus was teaching Christianity, Jesus was teaching kindness, love, concern, and peace. What I tell people is don't be Christian, be Christ like. Don't be Buddhist, be Buddha like. " - Dr. Wayne W. Dyer

Discuss

[Katherine]

Jesus' words in Matthew 10:32-39

"Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven.

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her motherinlaw—
a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'

"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

I think the person quoted did not understand the teachings of Christ.

[cjames]

Personally I don't think there is a line between us and God, but that we all are God (or have something of God in us.)

[Katherine]

Originally Posted by cjames

Personally I don't think there is a line between us and God, but that we all are God (or have something of God in us.)

That's interesting. Why do you think that?

[Justin]

I agree with CJames. The only line of separation is the line that is drawn by us. I've quoted what Jesus said in the Bible in John, so I won't do it again but he made it very clear. The problem is that it is difficult to explain this to someone who is involved in organized Christianity because they generally don't want to listen.

God is omnipotent. God is Creation. God is love. God just is, I AM. We are creation of God and how is it that God can create other than himself? There is no line, it's all about the spiritual communion with God and that is present all around us. However, most people don't even care or have time to consider it. There is only One source. God is as much present in us as he is in the stones in the sea. God is eternal and ONE.

Whatever it is that separates us from God is man made. Just like religions. We cannot find God in a church, we find God within ourselves and once that light is recognized, the journey towards enlightenment has just begun.

I will quote Jesus and this is not science, this is the words of Jesus

John 17

20 "My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one: 23 I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. 24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. 25 "Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them."

So according to Jesus in this quote, the 2nd coming of Christ would be the Christ resurrection in heart of men.

Your Jesus doesn't talk of separation, on the contrary, your Jesus speaks of Unity and Oneness. So where is that line?

[minaras]

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[cjames]

Excellent post Justin! I now go to sleep in an even better mood

[Katherine]

Question: Then why did Jesus have to die on the cross?

[Katherine]

Let's go to the most common verses in all of Scripture: John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.

Question: If there is no separation, what do we need to be saved from?

[Justin]

Ourselves... our thoughts... our minds... our own worst enemy. That Light you describe is the one single source of all of life. The only one ingredient that creates all is that Light you speak of. Mankind is not only surrounded by that light but that light is also present within him. If man doesn't tap into that light or recognize that light and seeks his answers from an organized religion, that light, while still there goes unnoticed.

The verse occurs in a narrative in third chapter of John taking place in Jerusalem, when Nicodemus, a member of the ruling council, comes to talk with Jesus, whom he calls Rabbi. Jesus's "miraculous signs" have convinced him that Jesus is "...from God". In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again" (5-6). Jesus John 3:16 summarizes Jesus' lesson to Nicodemus: that belief in Jesus is the path to eternal life. In this passage, Jesus proclaims himself the Messiah and lays out important aspects of Christian theology. This shows a contrast with the Mark, for instance, in which Jesus often tries to keep his divinity secret until his final trip to Jerusalem.