Acceptance/rejection God/man

[dpmartin]

The logic when it comes to the True God. Is it is illogical to require God to be that which one thinks God should be; for the True God is the One who knows what man should be.

These are the relationships between the Living God and man.

Acceptance/rejection:
Man rejecting the Living God or the Living God rejecting man.
Man accepting the Living God or the Living God accepting man.

Acceptance with judgment:
Man accepting the Living God with judgment (or reservation if you will) or the Living God accepting man with judgment.
Who has power here?

Acceptance without judgment:
Man accepting the Living God without judgment (or reservation if you will) or the Living God accepting man without judgment.
Who has power here?

rejection with judgment:
Man rejecting the Living God with judgment (or reservation if you will) or the Living God rejecting man with judgment.
Who has power here?

rejection without judgment:
Man rejecting the Living God without judgment (or reservation if you will) or the Living God rejecting man without judgment.
Who has power here?

He who has the power is the one who can make peace and keep it.

The peace that The Living God has made between Himself and the son of man, is that man is required to make peace with the Son of God, that God has given and keeps. If one does not except the Son of God, one does not accept God’s peace, nor will one have peace with God.

Is there any other way to have Peace with God?

Is there any thing stated in this posting that doesn’t stand as True?

[pokemasterat]

A whole bunch of the stuff you said... was kind of made of incomplete sentences which didn't really get much point across... What are you asking? If I said "Boat or banana. Is this true?" then how could you say anything in response? Unless they were a bunch of intended rhetorical questions which you expected everybody to have the "right" answers to, in order to make a point.

I'm also curious as to what God you're referring to. Jewish, Lutheran, Catholic, Methodist, Muslim, Jehovah?

[dpmartin]

Father, Son, and Holy Spirt as revealed through Jesus the Christ.
The Living God, I don't care to much for religions.

[pokemasterat]

But what about my first paragraph's worth of questions?
And what is Christianity, if not a religion? And, if you don't care too much, why did you make a topic about it? :?

[Aristoddler]

Originally Posted by pokemasterat

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I'm also curious as to what God you're referring to. Jewish, Lutheran, Catholic, Methodist, Muslim, Jehovah?

You named a denomination of people, 3 religions and a god...
Just to point it out.

Boat or banana: It is not true, because it poses no query, therefore the answer can not possibly be formed in the positive sense.

dpmartin; It's interesting that you would ask about this, since so many people have so many different versions on how they perceive god, higher powers, beliefs or religions.

What about ignorant tolerance, though?
In the fact that there are so many people out there who simply don't question what it is that makes us tick, since it doesn't benefit them directly in this lifetime.

You asked the same question with different preludes, four times.
I believe the big question isn't who has the power in any given situation, but who ultimately has the power regardless of our own personal decisions.
We have the power to affect ourselves in the now.
Assuming there is a god, then he has the power to affect us in the end of it all.
So really, what is your question?

[dpmartin]

Pokemasterat:
To be honest I am not sure of the best way to answer your first paragraph at this time. The gears are still turning, the older you get the slower they turn.
I admit that this may have not been the best way to convey this. The significance I believe is no matter what one may think of God or think God is, if they seek the True Living God, He has the upper hand whether it be fair or not from there own point of view. And if I may ask, if you knew who the Living God is, then what would you do about, if anything, or could do about it?

Aristoddler:
"What about ignorant tolerance, though?"

How about tolerance of ignorance? Never mind, another issue.

"In the fact that there are so many people out there who simply don't question what it is that makes us tick, since it doesn't benefit them directly in this lifetime."

Agreed, there are very many, especially in prosperous societies. It’s all in what one loves most, usually. Even what seems to be a majority of TV preachers jump in and preach prosperous, happy shiny people.
In the rest of your posting it seems that you also are under the impression that God is for after, not now. I submit that it is a mistaken view. If there is a Living God then He is alive. And is quite effective in the present flesh. Why not? He’s God, He can do all. The common view that God is way up there some where, it is not so. His Spirit is all over the earth. As it is preached, the Kingdom of God is at hand, within ones reach. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. And of corse it is very possible to have a relationship with the Living God now.

[pokemasterat]

Originally Posted by dpmartin

Pokemasterat:
To be honest I am not sure of the best way to answer your first paragraph at this time. The gears are still turning, the older you get the slower they turn.
I admit that this may have not been the best way to convey this. The significance I believe is no matter what one may think of God or think God is, if they seek the True Living God, He has the upper hand whether it be fair or not from there own point of view. And if I may ask, if you knew who the Living God is, then what would you do about, if anything, or could do about it?

It depends on who the Living god is. I don't know it, so I can't predict what I would do.

Originally Posted by dpmartin

In the rest of your posting it seems that you also are under the impression that God is for after, not now. I submit that it is a mistaken view. If there is a Living God then He is alive. And is quite effective in the present flesh. Why not? He’s God, He can do all. The common view that God is way up there some where, it is not so. His Spirit is all over the earth. As it is preached, the Kingdom of God is at hand, within ones reach. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. And of corse it is very possible to have a relationship with the Living God now.

How do you know this?

[dpmartin]

"How do you know this?"
A very awesome question.

I could tell you as some say, I know that I know that I know, but that and a buck fifty would get you a cup of coffee.

I could quote you scripture after scripture stating call upon the name of the Lord.

Bottom line is, I can only tell you what I did when I did not know the Lord Jesus. One night when I was about 18 realizing this can’t be all there is to being alive. I cried out to Him stating that I knew no one that knew Him and did not know how to know Him. Within a short period of time in my daily life He brought people to me, that knew Him. And told me how I could know Him. I did not look for them. They told me to repent and ask the Lord Jesus to be my Lord and Savior, and that was that. 30 some years later through ups and downs in this life, there is still no other, and one cannot have to much of the True Living God in one’s life.

Hope this answers your question.

[pokemasterat]

Meh, it's a good answer for you, because you know your life better than I do. Not my place to argue for coincidence. I do say, though, that you're a Christian for a reason, which is better than being a Christian because "You're going to Hell!" (the response such a Christian might give if asked why they believe in God)

[dpmartin]

Pokemasterat

I can see how one might look at coincidence as an explanation of such things. But if there is a Living God then surly He can speak to His creation and make it happen. Thus if one hears the Word of God then it happens then there is verification of God’s Word. For example, Moses was told by God that He would part the sea and the Israelites would walk on dry land. Then He told Moses to raise his staff against the sea to part it. Thus is the verification that it was not a coincidence, and the relationship between God and His people. The old testament is all about God speaks to someone and then He makes it happen.

On "You're going to Hell!"
On one hand I agree that it sucks. On the other hand as Aristoddler pointed out, there are many that see no need for God unless they die. And they would only seek salvation for fear of hell. So there seems to be only one point to get across to many, and it works. And it is said that some will cling to one and fear the other. It is also said that many will love one and hate the other.

If one loves after the things of the Living God. Then it is the Living God he seeks. If it pleases God to give this life to man no matter what the result of men’s lives will be. Why would He with hold anything of Himself that man could have, if he loved after it? Jesus is the Word of God given in the flesh. The witnessed resurrection of the flesh is the verification.