African Americans after Obama election

[SummyF]

Before i ask my question/ tell you my observation i will give you background information.

I am in baltimore, MD, and i am currently in school. Before i go any further, i would also like to explain that i am new to baltimore city, the east coast, and urban environments.

As i was in class on thursday, i noticed that African Americans in my public policy classes are more outspoken. From a general point of view, i see that the outspoken rhetoric that is spoken is usually is based on policy that is being written by Obama. My concern is that the MAJORITY of african americans who are being outspoken are not disagreeing with the MAJORITY of Obamas administration. This can cause a few problems in my mind

1) Because african americans are following Obama, a situation that may strain Obama may be taken against the african america community.
(conflict likes this are more likely with lesser educated communities)

2) The african american community in the Unites States, has fit into an easy voting block which can be easily manipulated (in future american elections). an example that can be blown up to into poor rural white voting block

One bit of info that may back this concern up is the idea that California's gay marriage clause was overturned part way by the same african american community. They were seen picketing on election day.

- I heard this on NPR early january, i will find the transcript or w/e

3) African American will become more nationalistic, because of the history with race relations. (this is less likely but some african american may change into this)


Just to clarify, i am not a racist, i am a conservative (libertarian), i supported Ron paul.
If i bring out some strong emotions, i am sorry. Yet, i believe that race relations especially after this election is pertinent

[Icon]

Have you also considered that this man is in office on a platform of change. Not only does he represent the first African American to hold the office of president but he also represents the youth, as they were a major contributing factor to his election. And he represents the hopes for all Americans for a brighter future free of useless wars and capitalist government agendas. As much as I can see where you are coming from, I would like to mention that it is the least of the issues facing this presidency and the African American people.

I am actually quite glad that they are now speaking up. They need to and they need to do so in a way that does not promote ignorance but rather understanding, cooperation and confidence. The African American community needs a leader like this.

Try to find a web-site with the Boondocks episode with Martin Luther King Jr.

It will explain what I mean by ignorance.

[SummyF]

Originally Posted by Icon

Have you also considered that this man is in office on a platform of change. Not only does he represent the first African American to hold the office of president but he also represents the youth, as they were a major contributing factor to his election. And he represents the hopes for all Americans for a brighter future free of useless wars and capitalist government agendas. As much as I can see where you are coming from, I would like to mention that it is the least of the issues facing this presidency and the African American people.

I am actually quite glad that they are now speaking up. They need to and they need to do so in a way that does not promote ignorance but rather understanding, cooperation and confidence. The African American community needs a leader like this.

Try to find a web-site with the Boondocks episode with Martin Luther King Jr.

It will explain what I mean by ignorance.

Let me clarify, it is more than great that the african american community is speaking out. Yet, what my issue is that this speaking out needs to be less homogenous and more diverse.
"And he represents the hopes for all Americans for a brighter future free of useless wars and capitalist government agendas"
When we say that obama is different that the rest specifically with capitalist government agendas. This is a fallacy, he is a neo-liberal, he wants to spread capitalism with the tool of american neo-imperialism. Rember Gaza? He is far from stopping wars.

the black community should speak out against the hypocrisy. Black people have a similar narrative with the palestinian people. Along with the rest of nations that globalization is hitting specifically african nations

black people need to wake up and understand obama is anther white man

[Icon]

Originally Posted by SummyF

Let me clarify, it is more than great that the african american community is speaking out. Yet, what my issue is that this speaking out needs to be less homogenous and more diverse.
"And he represents the hopes for all Americans for a brighter future free of useless wars and capitalist government agendas"
When we say that obama is different that the rest specifically with capitalist government agendas. This is a fallacy, he is a neo-liberal, he wants to spread capitalism with the tool of american neo-imperialism. Rember Gaza? He is far from stopping wars.

the black community should speak out against the hypocrisy. Black people have a similar narrative with the palestinian people. Along with the rest of nations that globalization is hitting specifically african nations

black people need to wake up and understand obama is anther white man

He is actually a socialist more than anything and the Gaza incident was because we refused to stop Israel anymore. Besides, Gaza wasn't his choice.

If you want diversity, add some. Speak out.

[SummyF]

Originally Posted by Icon

He is actually a socialist more than anything and the Gaza incident was because we refused to stop Israel anymore. Besides, Gaza wasn't his choice.

If you want diversity, add some. Speak out.

From what i know about Obama he is following strict neo-liberal polices. Remember socialism and liberalism are on two different spectrums when it comes to political philosophy.

When it comes to gaza i woud suggest a reading

"israel lobby"

When it comes to Obama i believe he is a good man, yet the zionists who control will not let him

[Didymos Thomas]

Originally Posted by SummyF

Remember socialism and liberalism are on two different spectrums when it comes to political philosophy.

Sort of. In the US, the colloquial use of "liberal" is on the side of the political spectrum which also houses socialism.

[Elmud]

Originally Posted by SummyF

Before i ask my question/ tell you my observation i will give you background information.

I am in baltimore, MD, and i am currently in school. Before i go any further, i would also like to explain that i am new to baltimore city, the east coast, and urban environments.

As i was in class on thursday, i noticed that African Americans in my public policy classes are more outspoken. From a general point of view, i see that the outspoken rhetoric that is spoken is usually is based on policy that is being written by Obama. My concern is that the MAJORITY of african americans who are being outspoken are not disagreeing with the MAJORITY of Obamas administration. This can cause a few problems in my mind

1) Because african americans are following Obama, a situation that may strain Obama may be taken against the african america community.
(conflict likes this are more likely with lesser educated communities)

2) The african american community in the Unites States, has fit into an easy voting block which can be easily manipulated (in future american elections). an example that can be blown up to into poor rural white voting block

One bit of info that may back this concern up is the idea that California's gay marriage clause was overturned part way by the same african american community. They were seen picketing on election day.

- I heard this on NPR early january, i will find the transcript or w/e

3) African American will become more nationalistic, because of the history with race relations. (this is less likely but some african american may change into this)


Just to clarify, i am not a racist, i am a conservative (libertarian), i supported Ron paul.
If i bring out some strong emotions, i am sorry. Yet, i believe that race relations especially after this election is pertinent

I remember Jesse Jackson crying at the inauguration. I wonder how he must have felt, along with all the other African americans. Couldn't know, or fully understand because I am white. But, for me, it was a good thing to see. I'm kind of glad he's in there for that reason alone. The only thing better would be if a woman could be elected. My opinion. Maybe one day.

[odenskrigare]

Obama probably won't be a revolutionary president for better or worse, but hopefully he will make black youths want to watch C-SPAN like the (black) South Africans I used to go to school with

[Mr. Fight the Power]

I would just like to point out that black and other minority groups are typically far more conservative on issues not related to them than white groups, and Obama kind of represents a more diversified and heterogeneous future for blacks.

SummyF is still right about Obama, he is just another white guy. He has pretty much continued all of the trends of the last administration. It is also ironic that he is leveraging the country into a long term future of corporate hegemony marked by economic stagnation, financial slavery, and class immobility. Good luck with that, black folks. (Note: I'm in the same boat. At least this financial crisis could lead us to a time with a little less race consciousness and entitlement issues.)

Kudos to Icon for the Boondocks reference. They have an upcoming season, and I will be interested in seeing how they treat Obama.

[Phronimos]

Originally Posted by Mr. Fight the Power

SummyF is still right about Obama, he is just another white guy. He has pretty much continued all of the trends of the last administration.
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...closes guantanamo, passes huge stimulus bill, proposes housing market package to assist millions in trouble with mortage crisis, wants to reverse current stem cell policy, seeks dramatic health care reform, and so on. Yes...he's the same as George Bush.