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You're focusing on the US too. Everything is prohibitively difficult politically speaking in the US.

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For you, I'll cite the global warming conflict.
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For you, I'll cite the global warming conflict.
But opposition to a program does not indicate difficulty for difficulty's sake. It indicates that there are people in the United States (like me) who resist being snowed. You could also mention the health-care debate. There are different views, and this is a democracy.

Gallup finds “a record-high 41%” of Americans now say the “seriousness of global warming” is exaggerated.

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Gallup finds “a record-high 41%” of Americans now say the “seriousness of global warming” is exaggerated.
And around 1/3 of them were probably the same 12% gallup found who believed Obama was a Muslim. Surely you can do better than an argumentum ad populum.
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And around 1/3 of them were probably the same 12% gallup found who believed Obama was a Muslim. Surely you can do better than an argumentum ad populum.
This wasn't an argumentum ad populum. The question was why can't doesn't the United States join other nations is climate change legislation, and the answer is that this is a democracy, and there is considerable opposition.This was no argument against (or for) such legislation. It was a reply to why there is no such legislation.
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This was no argument against (or for) such legislation. It was a reply to why there is no such legislation.
So then you are just stating the obvious. OK.
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So then you are just stating the obvious. OK.
I was answering a question. The answer, unless you knew the poll numbers, wasn't obvious. Sorry I committed no fallacy. A more considered reading would have told you that. Next time, maybe.
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You're making it sound more difficult than it is. The fact that it has been done many times prove that it ain't that difficult. Perhaps you should read the first chapter of the Cut Spelling handbook, here. It discusses some issues with implementation etc.

You're focusing on the US too. Everything is prohibitively difficult politically speaking in the US.

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Feelings seem to be the only thing you can write of in this thread. No arguments. No rationality. I feel this, I feel that. It is a discussion board and discussions involve arguments. Get on with it.
The us does not decide on the English language changes.

When have i mentioned feelings. You have proved my opposition to change over and over again. You cant even imagine the problem of substituting a z with an s , so how can you have anything of importance to add to this debate. Its you that have given silly examples with no value other than your base requirements. The world may find it the most convenient language but its the English that decides its future. Your arguments are common and insignificant not worthy of consideration.
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The world may find it the most convenient language but its the English that decides its future.
Considering that English is the national language of numerous African countries, a national language in India, not to mention the primary language in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, the English will NOT be the ones to decide its future. It is originally English, but languages evolve in a way very similar to how genes evolve. No one gets to decide. American English is by far the most dominant strain in the world media, and it itself becomes progressively more influenced by Spanish as time goes on, so I don't see how the English will decide anything about it. No one decides. It happens.
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Considering that English is the national language of numerous African countries, a national language in India, not to mention the primary language in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, the English will NOT be the ones to decide its future. It is originally English, but languages evolve in a way very similar to how genes evolve. No one gets to decide. American English is by far the most dominant strain in the world media, and it itself becomes progressively more influenced by Spanish as time goes on, so I don't see how the English will decide anything about it. No one decides. It happens.
I never maintained the English, per se, would decide its future. The English speaking will forever change it by natural progression. I am against the enforced changes by a contrived board of linguists. Those who oversee the concise English dictionary take into account all the natural changes without prejudice. Its my right to stand up for my language and any silly alterations that may be recommended. It wont stagnate but neither will it become a pigeon English for those who dont understand its intricacies.
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