Breaking the Law of Balance

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proV
 
Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2008 09:23 am
As Walter Russell teaches us, the law of balance is the only law in nature.

And a qoute frome The Divine Illiad 1:

Quote:

Man can make whichever he chooses. He can make happiness, success, wealth, friendships and health only by obeying the law. He can never find them by disobeying the law.
But let us assume the following:

The law holds true in this universe, this "matrix".

But what about in a matrix inside this matrix? For example, we are all familiar with computer games, in this games we are the creators of the laws inside. And the laws inside don't have to be balanced at all!

So let's take this further:

If we are able to build a giant matrix for entire human race, like the one in the Matrix movie (but here we shall give the inniciative, not the machines), we can make happiness, success, wealth, friendships and health and disobey the balance law.

Where have I gone wrong? :rolleyes:
 
sarek
 
Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2008 02:21 pm
@proV,
I would think that by creating any kind of unbalanced sub matrix you would simultaneously need to create an equally large amount of 'counterunbalance' outside that sub matrix.
Call it the law of the preservation of balance if you will.
By enlarging the sub matrix to encompass the whole of existence you force yourself to create your counterunbalance inside rather than outside the submatrix.
 
Joe
 
Reply Sat 29 Nov, 2008 09:13 pm
@proV,
proV wrote:
As Walter Russell teaches us, the law of balance is the only law in nature.

And a qoute frome The Divine Illiad 1:

But let us assume the following:

The law holds true in this universe, this "matrix".

But what about in a matrix inside this matrix? For example, we are all familiar with computer games, in this games we are the creators of the laws inside. And the laws inside don't have to be balanced at all!

So let's take this further:

If we are able to build a giant matrix for entire human race, like the one in the Matrix movie (but here we shall give the inniciative, not the machines), we can make happiness, success, wealth, friendships and health and disobey the balance law.

Where have I gone wrong? :rolleyes:



This is really interesting. So if we are talking about balance, I would imagine that it applies to all things.

If your talking about a matrix in where you create an environment that produces a "good" human condition rather then a "bad" human condition, then your diving into some truly questionable territory.

Lets establish what Humans need to survive:

Oxygen
Water
Food
Sexual Reproduction

.....Although would these even be necessary in a Matrix?

So now you created a livable environment. Now you must determine what other factors invoke the best of humanity. This is where I think the formula is sketchy at best.

Basically I think any ideas pertaining to a controlled "Matrix" would be forceful and unnatural in the sense that, the people in this matrix would have to be programmed themselves.

I often wonder myself, what we can learn from simulations. But i think that any program cannot be compared to "reality". There are far to many variables to account for.

Still...........................
 
proV
 
Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2008 09:29 am
@Joe,
sarek wrote:
I would think that by creating any kind of unbalanced sub matrix you would simultaneously need to create an equally large amount of 'counterunbalance' outside that sub matrix.
Call it the law of the preservation of balance if you will.
By enlarging the sub matrix to encompass the whole of existence you force yourself to create your counterunbalance inside rather than outside the submatrix.


I get your point..The sub matrix would have to be balanced looking from the outside matrix. Because the Balance law here is only one valid.

I hope I will be at least somehow understood. Let's return to the computer games. They already exist. This games are a part of physical world we (our bodies) live in and where the balance law is manifestating. But what is happening looking from the outside? Electricity is flowing in chaotic like pulses (zeros and ones) and the LCD screen flashes. No real meaning here, you could say - if you don't know that the meaning is in symbols which are made. Transformation. This symbols are the new world, the new matrix. You can be a knight and "kill" badguys with your sword and not be afraid that the karma will strike you back with its own sword. In fact, you can get bonus points for doing that. You can have planets with zero gravity and not linked to sun or whatever crosses your mind. And it is possible because it is not really real. Laughing It can't be real. 'Cause the balance law isn't working here. But all this is not real only by observing from the outside of the sub matrix.


Joe wrote:


If your talking about a matrix in where you create an environment that produces a "good" human condition rather then a "bad" human condition, then your diving into some truly questionable territory.

I am talking about the sub matrix where the outside law could be fooled into beliving that the sub matrix is balanced. Indeed, it would be balanced looking from the outside.

Joe wrote:
Lets establish what Humans need to survive:

Oxygen
Water
Food
Sexual Reproduction

.....Although would these even be necessary in a Matrix?


Let's assume these elements would still be part of the outside matrix but with the help of machines automated so the human mind would not have to be aware of it. Only the human mind would live in the sub matrix.

Joe wrote:
So now you created a livable environment. Now you must determine what other factors invoke the best of humanity. This is where I think the formula is sketchy at best.

Is it? Dr. Russell told us the recipe:
Quote:
Man can make whichever he chooses. He can make happiness, success, wealth, friendships and health only by obeying the law. He can never find them by disobeying the law.
Obeying the Law... And in this case The Submatrix law! And the catch is, the law here can change on our will. :devilish: Devilish? The only law we would always have to obey is we_have_to_make_a_law.
 
MJA
 
Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2008 10:16 am
@proV,
Equality is nature's balance and her most simple truth.
The love of truth, philosophy, is living in Oneness with her.
Infinite Eternal Bliss!

=
MJA
 
proV
 
Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2008 02:09 pm
@MJA,
MJA wrote:
Equality is nature's balance and her most simple truth.
The love of truth, philosophy, is living in Oneness with her.
Infinite Eternal Bliss!


Sure, if it works, you would be able to choose that to! :yinyang:
Smile
 
Joe
 
Reply Sun 30 Nov, 2008 07:40 pm
@proV,
proV,

Ive tried to find "the law of balance" online, but am having no luck. do you know where i might find this material online?

From excerpts Ive read, Russell seems to have a straight forward Theme. Balance in life and the universe, is the format in my opinion also. But I have a feeling this knowledge is over-simplified by many.


thanks
 
MJA
 
Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2008 10:01 am
@Joe,
Joe wrote:
proV,

Ive tried to find "the law of balance" online, but am having no luck. do you know where i might find this material online?

From excerpts Ive read, Russell seems to have a straight forward Theme. Balance in life and the universe, is the format in my opinion also. But I have a feeling this knowledge is over-simplified by many.


thanks


I found this!

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=e94b06be4170a59a_landingView full size

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MJA
 
Joe
 
Reply Mon 1 Dec, 2008 01:12 pm
@MJA,
ha. I bet these guys could climb anything.

good one, sir.
 
proV
 
Reply Wed 3 Dec, 2008 03:51 pm
@Joe,
Joe wrote:

Ive tried to find "the law of balance" online, but am having no luck. do you know where i might find this material online?

From excerpts Ive read, Russell seems to have a straight forward Theme. Balance in life and the universe, is the format in my opinion also. But I have a feeling this knowledge is over-simplified by many.


Many of his books are found here.

Yes it's very reasonable to me also, that the balance is the Cause of all things. And as a Cause it is simple IMO, it's basicaly an expanded Newton's third law of motion we have study it in primary-school. But as dr. Russell said it, it is it's Effects, that can appear and are incredibly complex.
 
proV
 
Reply Wed 3 Dec, 2008 03:53 pm
@MJA,
MJA wrote:
I found this!

http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=e94b06be4170a59a_landingView full size

=
MJA



Balance and Harmony. Beautiful. Smile
 
MJA
 
Reply Thu 4 Dec, 2008 10:10 am
@proV,
All of nature stands precariously balanced on this planet Earth much like the Great Wallendas.
If mankind only could understand what tipping the balance means to not only the health of nature which is equally himself, perhaps we would stay on this lost paridise and live a little longer as equal as One. Perhaps it would become heavenly again, which is truly all that we seek.
Breaking the law of balance is breaking the law of nature, of life.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/23/svWHALING_narrowweb__300x338,0.jpg

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MJA
 
 

 
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