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| René Descartes Thread, What did Descartes really know? in Early Modern Philosophers; Good article on Descartes from The New Yorker here: THINK AGAIN by ANTHONY GOTTLIEB What did Descartes really know?... |
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| What did Descartes really know? Good article on Descartes from The New Yorker here: THINK AGAIN by ANTHONY GOTTLIEB What did Descartes really know? Last edited by Pythagorean; 12-02-2006 at 12:35 AM. |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? Quote:
Reading a bit of Descartes this morn, since I am not well read on philosophy. This jumped out at me: 31. There is a little gland 1 in the brain where the soul exercises its functions more particularly than in the other parts of the body We need to recognize also that although the soul is joined to the whole body, nevertheless there is a certain part of the body where it exercises its functions more particularly than in all the others. It is commonly held that this part is the brain, or perhaps the heart - the brain because the sense organs are related to it, and the heart because we feel the passions as if they were in it. But on carefully examining the matter I think I have clearly established that the part of the body in which the soul directly exercises its functions is not the heart at all, or the whole of the brain. It is rather the innermost part of the brain, which is a certain very small gland situated in the middle of the brain's substance and suspended above the passage through which the spirits in the brain's anterior cavities communicate with those in its posterior cavities. The slightest movements on the part of this gland may alter very greatly the course of these spirits, and conversely any change, however slight, taking place in the course of the spirits may do much to change the movements of the gland. 1The pineal gland, which Descartes had identified as the seat of the imagination and the 'common' sense in the Treatise on Man (CMS I 106).32. How we know that this gland is the principal seat of the soul Apart from this gland, there cannot be any other place in the whole body where the soul directly exercises its function. I am convinced of this, by the observation that all the other parts of our brain double, as also are all the organs of our external senses — eyes, hands, ears and so on. But in so far as we have only one simple thought about a given object at any one time, there must necessarily be some place where the two images coming through the two eyes, or the two impressions coming from a single object through the double organs of any other sense, can come together in a single image or impression before reaching the soul, so that they do not present to it two objects instead of one. We can easily understand that these images or other impressions are unified in this gland by means of the spirits which fill the cavities of the brain. But they cannot exist united in this way in any other place in the body except as a result of their being united in this gland.6 Descartes & the Soul |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? -Pineal Gland This gland is also commonly known as the 'Mystery Gland'. Here is an image of where it's located: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eal_glands.jpg Quote:
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? -Pineal Gland Wow, sorry to take your thread off course Pythagoras--but WOW! I have had pressure at the base of my brain and had a minor neurological disorder (CSD) triggered by a violent attack 10 years ago.... Weird "synchronicities" eh Pythagoras? Ooops forgot to say "Thanks Justin!" XX |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? Justin, With this my jungle vocabulary I can not adequately convey to you in words the depth of my gratitude for your post, but please if you can, partake in my thanks by visualizing my newly discovered, self renewing joy, and the indescribable peace in Knowing. Inspirational post Justin, thank you. |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? Quote:
__________________ Forum Links: Rules | User Control Panel | Video Tutorials | Blogs | Social Groups | FAQs "By a divine paradox, wherever there is one slave there are two. So in the wonderful reciprocities of being, we can never reach the higher levels until all our fellows ascend with us." - Edwin Markham |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? Nice articles, thank you. I would like to recommend Desmond Clarke books to deeply understand Descartes. Wow, I did not really notice that the last post was in 2006!! |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? wait, is justin saying the pineal gland is actually important or necessary in some way for a soul or conscious experience? |
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? Rene Descartes believed in the ides of Dualism (Body and soul are two different entities). Body is material and soul is immaterial. A question was rised..... how an immaterial entity can actually effect a material one? no examples in nature!! Descartes said that the answer is the Pineal gland, where material and immaterial meet. but he could not explain how and the problem remains controversial to this day.
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| Re: What did Descartes really know? Well yes, I know that, but he was obviously false with the whole pineal gland thing, IMO. That's why I was asking if justin was trying to revive the idea. Does he think it's true- that the pineal gland is a connection between the physical and the non-physical? |
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