some propose that we bring the Universe into existence , rather than the Universe was here first
how is this possible ?
i think not, but the universe is non-sense if there are no one to rule or use it and only humans can do it. i believe the universe is an unused tool that finds her user and that is the humans.
some propose that we bring the Universe into existence , rather than the Universe was here first
how is this possible ?
If we bring the universe into existence are we not then the creators of the universe?
What if the universe is mine alone? I'm God?
Wisdom Seeker;155323 wrote:
i think not, but the universe is non-sense if there are no one to rule or use it and only humans can do it. i believe the universe is an unused tool that finds her user and that is the humans.
And what does that tool do? Without a wielder, humans?, the tool does not exist?
what of the conditions within the Universe BEFORE we Humans existed though ?
the building of the tool, the universe, prepared for humans
north;155338 wrote:
but what came first , the tool or Humans ?
the tool and was prepared after the coming of the humans
mister kitten;155338 wrote:
And what does that tool do? Without a wielder, humans?, the tool does not exist?
what does that tool do?
- to protect its user and to protect the tool
Without a wielder, humans?, the tool does not exist?
- since no one cares for it, it will begin to decay, it is the destruction of the tool, the end of the universe.
i believe it was crafted by some kind of supernatural being for some kind of goal that humans were assign to attain it and that goal remains unknown to me.
i believe that the reality we live in is just a test, a test if we can be a successor to a supernatural being(s).
some propose that we bring the Universe into existence , rather than the Universe was here first
how is this possible ?
It is not possible.
Clearly, the brain is necessary and prior to the existence of mind.
The universe's prior existence is required in order to produce brain.
That the universe had properties before the advent of humans, is necessarily true.
Without humans, abstract entities do not exist.
Truth, language, logic, number, etc. exist only within mind.
Our awareness is not a condition on the world at all.
We can think of the universe as a mental concept of all that there is, but as an abstract concept with temporal existence (and a past) and operating under physical laws, it is dependent on human existence. Its significance and its meaning (including the identification of events or occasions) seems completely dependent upon humans to provide it.
We can think of the universe as a mental concept of all that there is,
inorder to do so means that you understand all it takes , to produce the physical objects
so please explain everything in this Universe to the last detail
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but as an abstract concept with temporal existence (and a past) and operating under physical laws, it is dependent on human existence. Its significance and its meaning (including the identification of events or occasions) seems completely dependent upon humans to provide it.
We can think of the universe as a mental concept of all that there is, but as an abstract concept with temporal existence (and a past) and operating under physical laws, it is dependent on human existence. Its significance and its meaning (including the identification of events or occasions) seems completely dependent upon humans to provide it.
But this cannot be right, for if the universe depend on us, then if we don` t exist, then the universe would not exist. This is contrary to intuition.
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