Know Thyself?

[Subjectivity9]

Welcome ValueRanger,

I agree with you that the finite or physical self is a bit like a computer, albeit an organic computer far advanced on anything man can yet come near duplicating. However consciousness, consciousness of (as in consciousness of an object), and Awareness throw into this mix something far more ‘AWE/some,’ don’t you think?

Some of us here might even argue that knowing ‘Self’ is more than merely the accumulation of conceptual knowledge, or “Bigger than the sum of its parts.”

That being said, cybernetics is certainly a fascinating avenue of study.

If you study the human body, as I have, you will find other things to ponder over like hormones that carry messages (only a small part of what they do) and you might begin in part to see the body not only as an individual ego self, but rather a committee of individual consciousnesses as well, or even see us, the human animal, as a universe for these smaller minuscule beings such as mitochondria. (A tiny fellow living inside each cell.)

The brain definitely does have its feedback processes, (engrams or memory traces), and yet at the same time is able to manufacture or organically grow new synapses all of the time. Unlike a simple computer, the brain adapts rapidly without reprogramming, and also what a computer cannot seem to do, at least yet, it makes leaps called creativity. But I do go on. ; ^ }

Anyway we may be more than merely finite hardware and software. We may be actually be eternal. This certainly adds to the complexity if not a whole new dimension.

Genetic hardware, that’s a new one on me. Please explain. Thanx : ^ )

Subjectivity9

[ValueRanger]

Consider that modular, scalar reality, is propagated by a uncertain~certain (uncertain is contained in the certainty set) range. The knowledge sets we choose to sustain, directly affect the following generational dialectical sets.

Any higher spiritual sets are sustainable in the mutually complimenting sets listed above, and here.

[Subjectivity9]

Rich,

Here is one for you. : ^ )

Quote: A friend read this to me this morning.

“Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is having the good sense not to put it in a fruit salad.”

Subjectivity9

[kennethamy]

Originally Posted by Subjectivity9

Rich,

Here is one for you. : ^ )

Quote: A friend read this to me this morning.

“Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is having the good sense not to put it in a fruit salad.”

Subjectivity9

Lots of people in other countries use tomatoes, with some sweeteners, as a fruit, and, for all I know, put them into fruit salad. Wisdom is knowing that tastes differ, and other people eat differently than you.

[richrf]

Originally Posted by Subjectivity9

Rich,

Here is one for you. : ^ )

Quote: A friend read this to me this morning.

“Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is having the good sense not to put it in a fruit salad.”

Subjectivity9

Very good! Thanks.

Rich

[kennethamy]

Originally Posted by richrf

Very good! Thanks.

Rich

Yes. I know some Koreans who sprinkle their tomatoes with sugar, and have them for dessert.

[TickTockMan]

Originally Posted by richrf

TT,

As you can see, your faith that there is no transcendental existence (there is no way of knowing one way or another) has given you purpose. We all create beliefs in order to suit our own way of viewing life. Some people believe in transcendental lives and this gives purpose. Others believe otherwise, and this gives purpose. I don't think it is possible to escape beliefs so best to respect each other's.

Rich

What does the fact of mortality have to do with the lack of faith in a transcendental existence?

Maybe I've forgotten what I've written elsewhere (which is entirely possible), but don't recall coming right out and saying, "There is no such thing as spirit or a transcendental existence." Perhaps you could find where I said that for me.

Perhaps you could also define what you mean by "transcendental existence" and "transcendental lives," as knowing your personal definition of these terms might help clear up some confusion on my part.

Thank you for your time,
Tick

[richrf]

Originally Posted by kennethamy

Yes. I know some Koreans who sprinkle their tomatoes with sugar, and have them for dessert.

I am not surprised that what is considered wisdom will be different for different cultures. In any case, I think the quote was metaphorical.

Rich

[Subjectivity9]

Ken,

In the state of TN, where I presently abide, every year in late harvest the people here have a tomato fight. They get out there are throw tomatoes at each other, while laughing their heads off. (Much like a snowball fight.)

Can you spell abundance? : = )

Any old way, I don't imagine tomatoes will be added to are military budget, as a new weapon, real soon?

Subjectivity9

[richrf]

Originally Posted by TickTockMan

What does the fact of mortality have to do with the lack of faith in a transcendental existence?

None. Most people feel that soon or later they are going to die. The nice thing about transcendental existence is that one can quietly proceed with life without being in any undo rush to do everything in one life.

Rich