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Has humanity changed? Can it?

I believe a massive change in the way people think is necessary to make the world a better place, mainly in what concerns the objectives one helds in life: People should hold global objectives that can never be achieved rather than personal ones that can be achieved. But is such a change possible? Have humans ever done it? I have a difficulties deciding between one of the two, perhaps someone here will be able to help me with this.

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Re: Has humanity changed? Can it?

If we cant do it now with global communication and the obvious necessity to make changes then we never will...We could start it now with the right call to arms message..Deposit our message on every forum within weeks we could be on our way to salvation..If only it was that easy..
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But, does that really works? We are bombarded with pro-enviroement propaganda ever day, and have been for quite a while, but the enviroement is still condemned as far as I can tell. And the weird part is that most people seen to agree taking care of the enviroement is important. I suspect most people would agree that fighting for the good of all rather than of the self is a good thing, but there would be no results again. Perhaps people actually dont wanna change and keep locked in some kind of mid-term?
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Re: Has humanity changed? Can it?

YO!

We need to be able to give ourselves permission to take charge of our own destiny, those believing in a supernatural father figure looking after things are not likely to go along with this idea. Neuroscience is unfolding many mysteries to us, what the future might hold is a greater ability to control our own psyches, it should be in the meantime our wish to do so to the measure that we can today with what we do know of ourselves and the impending necessities of the environment.
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I always feel like neutered dog chasing my tail for satisfaction.They tell me small ripples make large waves, i dont mind making ripples.I think i did make a difference to nestles outlook by arguing their bad habits where bad for business. If we could convince big business its the right thing to do "save the world" we might be on track. An upsurge in demand for change is coming i can feel it in my old bones.
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People should hold global objectives that can never be achieved rather than personal ones that can be achieved.
You suggest that people spend their lives tilting at delusional and impossible windmills? I guess that there are many who already do...

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You suggest that people spend their lives tilting at delusional and impossible windmills? I guess that there are many who already do...

That is a true sentiment in some ways. Yet many movements and current cultural realities we consider as positive human rights, ecological triumphs, and political progression were catilyzed by the Don Quixotes of their time.
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That is a true sentiment in some ways. Yet many movements and current cultural realities we consider as positive human rights, ecological triumphs, and political progression were catilyzed by the Don Quixotes of their time.
Perhaps you missed the qualifier part in "People should hold global objectives that can never be achieved" part of the OP?
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Re: Has humanity changed? Can it?

Change would be possible if enough people decide to. And if there was something more beneficial to change into. Right now the masses have all of the needs and luxuries that they want. The eminent things that are going to destroy us are mearly theory to them, and to most scientist, or religion feeders for that matter. So there is no reason for them to change yet.

Everyone is tough until they have a gun in thier face. But the likelihood of it happening to them is slim to none so they count on none to run thier life.

To sum it up humanity will wander the same path until it is forced to change. There must be enough veriables in the situation to cause a mass movement. I manage a reef aquarium which tends to have a lot of metaphors pertaining to life. If I add only one fish at a time within a months duration. All of the perameters stay the same. If I add all of those fish at the same time. The perameters change and force me to take action to rectify the issue.
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I believe a massive change in the way people think is necessary to make the world a better place, mainly in what concerns the objectives one helds in life: People should hold global objectives that can never be achieved rather than personal ones that can be achieved. But is such a change possible? Have humans ever done it? I have a difficulties deciding between one of the two, perhaps someone here will be able to help me with this.

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Probably a little too much, a little too soon. Not a slow smooth process, but rather, a series of little jumps or leaps. What will be the next little leap? Who knows. Massive change? It is my belief that things just do not work that way.
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