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Novus Ordo Seclorum




Annuit Coeptis (the eye favors our undertaking)

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Novus Ordo Seclorum (New World Order)

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I'd like to get your thoughts about what this message is intended to mean on the back of the US dollar bill.

Why world order and not American or US order?

Seems ironic now with the decline of US world power and the devaluing of the dollar.



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Re: Novus Ordo Seclorum

It means Tom Hanks has another chance to win an Oscar in "The DaVinci Code 2: Illuminati Gone Wild."

Seriously though, isn't this a masonic interpretation for the "new world order" conceived by the modern Illuminati in 1776 to symbolize the multi-tiered orders of masonic lodges united as a single government with the capstone unplaced because the overall masonic vision has yet to be completed? Nicholas Cage makes it very clear that if the pyramid is completed, Benjamin Franklin will not get his wings and international distribution rights will be cut in half by sub-standard local distribution..

I also believe that the militant wing of the Illuminati, the Shriners, intend to enforce the will of the Illuminati with red fezzes and small, hilariously sized cars.

But how is this ironic with the decline of the US and the US dollar? Does the pyramid symbolize the failure the lending market, sub-prime mortages, and the volitility of the global currency market? Last time I checked, all currencies arent doing too well. Are the Illuminati responsible?

Also, why has the Illuminati gained so much attention among conspiracy theorists and no one even mentions the Medici's anymore? What about the Bush's??? Thats the biggest conspiracy of them all... how in the heck is that family intertwined with upper level politics??? Because they were orginally decendants of the mayflower pilgrims????? C'mon...
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Seriously though, isn't this a masonic interpretation for the "new world order" conceived by the modern Illuminati in 1776 to symbolize the multi-tiered orders of masonic lodges united as a single government with the capstone unplaced because the overall masonic vision has yet to be completed?

I also believe that the militant wing of the Illuminati, the Shriners, intend to enforce the will of the Illuminati with red fezzes and small, hilariously sized cars.

But how is this ironic with the decline of the US and the US dollar? Does the pyramid symbolize the failure the lending market, sub-prime mortages, and the volitility of the global currency market? Last time I checked, all currencies arent doing too well. Are the Illuminati responsible?

Also, why has the Illuminati gained so much attention among conspiracy theorists and no one even mentions the Medici's anymore? What about the Bush's??? Thats the biggest conspiracy of them all... how in the heck is that family intertwined with upper level politics??? Because they were orginally decendants of the mayflower pilgrims????? C'mon...
Have you noticed that of all investment firms the Rothschild group is doing exceedingly well? It's interesting to hear the many politicians openly call for a new world order and a new financial world order in the public media.

The Masons are in most governments now at the highest levels, even Japan. So why are they so vivid only on the US dollar - is it meant to signify the use of the USA to bring about the new world order?

It's interesting to remember Hitler's quote about how the Nazis with help from the secret societies would take over America from within. Either he was a good guessor or he had foreknowledge of project paperclip.

The old MI:5 and IAO symbols are revealing about the level of masonic control in government.

Apparently congress has been determined to be the cause of the world financial catastrophe through surprisingly weak laws when they were forewarned, almost as if they allowed it to happen.

Like Cheney allowed the plane to crash into the pentagon.
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Have you noticed that of all investment firms the Rothschild group is doing exceedingly well? It's interesting to hear the many politicians openly call for a new world order and a new financial world order in the public media.
Currently, only Rit Cap PLC is doing precariously well in anything associated with the Rothschild group. In fact, a great majority of their stocks have been undervalued for more than 5 consecutive quarters, making them low value stocks (-$10). But Rothschild is small potatoes compared to Berkshire Hathaway.

That some politicians call for a new world order and new financial world, they are talking more about reform than an entirely new system, unless you are talking about movements like the Lega Nor movement in Italy for example. Usually, the only politicians that talk like that are third world countries with little relevance to the global community at large.


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The Masons are in most governments now at the highest levels, even Japan. So why are they so vivid only on the US dollar - is it meant to signify the use of the USA to bring about the new world order?
This seems more like conjecture. Bush is a member of the skull and bones… and they actually do have people in integral parts of the corporate and political world. Masons… I don’t know. I think they have been blown up more than their due. The reason why a Masonic symbol appears on the dollar is anybody’s guess. Heck, why not. There’s an AK-47 on the flag on Mozambique, does this mean that Mikhail Kalashnikov was instrumental in the formation of the government? But if the US was to be used in bringing a new world, they sure are hiding it well.


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It's interesting to remember Hitler's quote about how the Nazis with help from the secret societies would take over America from within. Either he was a good guessor or he had foreknowledge of project paperclip.
What quote is that? Project paperclip?? Walmart… always low prices???

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The old MI:5 and IAO symbols are revealing about the level of masonic control in government.
The only thing they all share is a love of triangles and pyramids. I could say the same thing about Pink Floyd and the US department of agriculture’s new food pyramid.

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Apparently congress has been determined to be the cause of the world financial catastrophe through surprisingly weak laws when they were forewarned, almost as if they allowed it to happen.
Wait… what? In what way?

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Like Cheney allowed the plane to crash into the pentagon.
Dude… seriously??? Everyone knows that was a diversion by Bush Senior (known to some as the supreme overlord of Kazzam) to cover up the secret prototype of the Bush family sponsored Death-Laser that could generate massive amounts of heat on small laptops with pinpoint precision (code named Fire Bush) thereby causing batteries to lose 5% battery capacity and in turn generating profit for the guild of calamitous intent when people, troubled by the hot nature of their laps, suddenly jump up and drop thier hard earned spare change on the ground... which are of course picked up by "sweeper" squads manned by ubiquitous malcontents determined to bring back disco.
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Re: Novus Ordo Seclorum

I do not know Latin (though, I'm starting Latin I this semester and am thoroughly excited about the class), but I was told by someone who does know the language (PhD in English and Latin was his language) that "Novus Ordo Seclorum" means "New Order of the Ages" which simply implies that the nation being referred to is an innovation, a progressive step in government as opposed to a an order that governs the world.
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Re: Novus Ordo Seclorum

You're right, Didymos, it does translate to "New Order of the Ages."

So many documentaries (professional and independent) have been made about all this, and are readily accessible on YouTube, I don't feel the need to really get into it all. But I do recommend everyone do some personal research.

Not all of the theories are crackpot ones, and many are very well stated.

I will mention only this: The Federal Reserve is neither federal, nor is it a reserve.
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Re: Novus Ordo Seclorum

According to my latin dictionary, it should actually be something like "New Order of the World(s)" or "New Order of the Universe(s)".

Does this imply a conspiracy? No, it was just a cool latin phrase to stick on our currency...
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I do not know Latin (though, I'm starting Latin I this semester and am thoroughly excited about the class), but I was told by someone who does know the language (PhD in English and Latin was his language) that "Novus Ordo Seclorum" means "New Order of the Ages" which simply implies that the nation being referred to is an innovation, a progressive step in government as opposed to a an order that governs the world.
you're right "new order of the ages" would be more literal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novus_Ordo_Seclorum ;

"The word seclorum does not mean "secular", as one might assume, but is the genitive (possessive) plural form of the word saeculum, meaning (in this context) generation, century, or age. Saeculum did come to mean "age, world" in late, Christian Latin, and "secular" is derived from it, through secularis. However, the adjective "secularis," meaning "worldly," is not equivalent to the nominative plural possessive "seclorum," meaning "of the ages."

though I can see where the idea comes from

I think another reason for that translation by conspiracy theorists is that the phrase "new world order" has been repeated so often by prominent politicians in the US and European countries.

the context it was used in varies, however some instances have been explicit about the implementation of globalist policies, George Herbert-Walker Bush's speech is a good example of this;

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Currently, only Rit Cap PLC is doing precariously well in anything associated with the Rothschild group. In fact, a great majority of their stocks have been undervalued for more than 5 consecutive quarters, making them low value stocks (-$10). But Rothschild is small potatoes compared to Berkshire Hathaway.
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That some politicians call for a new world order and new financial world, they are talking more about reform than an entirely new system
how do you know this? I'm sure it's true in some cases, in some cases they are definately calling for a new globalism formulated away from public eyes

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This seems more like conjecture. Bush is a member of the skull and bones… and they actually do have people in integral parts of the corporate and political world. Masons… I don’t know. I think they have been blown up more than their due. The reason why a Masonic symbol appears on the dollar is anybody’s guess. Heck, why not. There’s an AK-47 on the flag on Mozambique, does this mean that Mikhail Kalashnikov was instrumental in the formation of the government? But if the US was to be used in bringing a new world, they sure are hiding it well.
yeah, US world approval is not good right now...

Woodrow Wilson, a 32nd degree Scottish Rite freemason is responsible for the dollar bill design (not the actual art but having it put on the dollar)

I'll have to lookup references for evidence of the membership of foreign dignitaries within the Masonic organizations

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Project paperclip?? Walmart… always low prices???
do a search on wikipedia, you're going to be very surprised of what you find 8)

they took Nazi scientists, some of them who had been involved in torturous human experiments and were avowed Nazis - and brought them into the US military/industrial/intelligence system

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The only thing they all share is a love of triangles and pyramids. I could say the same thing about Pink Floyd and the US department of agriculture’s new food pyramid.
America was largely run by Masons initially this is public knowledge.

Nowadays you'll find the elite at places like the Bilderberg group, CFR, and Trilateral commission. Not to mention Bohemian grove.

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Dude… seriously??? Everyone knows that was a diversion by Bush Senior (known to some as the supreme overlord of Kazzam) to cover up the secret prototype of the Bush family sponsored Death-Laser that could generate massive amounts of heat on small laptops with pinpoint precision (code named Fire Bush) thereby causing batteries to lose 5% battery capacity and in turn generating profit for the guild of calamitous intent when people, troubled by the hot nature of their laps, suddenly jump up and drop thier hard earned spare change on the ground... which are of course picked up by "sweeper" squads manned by ubiquitous malcontents determined to bring back disco.
I knew it!!!!

but seriously, have you seen the testimonies by witnesses who said Dick Cheney told Norad to stand down? Even though they had been conducting similar exercises (which Condoleeza Rice lied about) before 9-11, the air traffic controllers informed the military that it was not an exercise. Did Cheney know about the exercises and think it was just a drill? Or did he want to make sure that the US people would support a middle eastern war? There is alot of evidence to suggest that war in Iraq was in planning well before 9-11.



and the famous, smirking - 'So?!';



meanwhile haliburton gets no bid contracts
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Haliburton having no-bod contracts is nothing new. Standard Oil damn-near owned Washington. Talk about conspiracy theories.
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