Well lately I have heard a lot about 2012. I have heard 3 different stories and have been presented with lots of so called evidence. These are the 3 thoeries:

-Planet X will cause all sorts of disturbences when it comes into close quarters with our solar system. It's large gravitational field being the main cause. Apparently a large body has been detected a few billion miles out. It also seems our sattelites have experienced wierd gravitational anomilies lately.

-In the centre of our universe is a black hole, from this black hole extends a thin disk-like gravitational field (the galactic belt). Apparently our solar system orbits the black hole as well as oscilating up and down, like the orbit of an electron around a nuclues. Cosmic rays pour out of the centre of black holes and it is said we will be able to see the black hole with the naked eye when we pass through the galactic belt. It is said that the cosmic rays and immense gravitational forces caused by the galactic belt will have catastrphic effects on Earth. 2012 seems to be just about the time we will pass through this belt.

-The LHC (Large Hadron Collider) will backfire in some way, whether it be a black hole or an atomic chain reaction. Nostradamous said in his book that when the positive beams collide (protons) saturn will turn from gold to iron (implying transmution of elements) and all should run from Geneva (exactly where they bulit it). This is way to much of a coincedence! I'm as far from that thing as I can get!

Apperently the number of natural disasters is increasing by exponential rates, the number of UFO sightings are also increasing by exponential rates, our two biggest planets will align on 2012, the Mayan callander ends 2012, and global warming is increasing by exponential rates also. They say we will experience polar shift and there is evidence for past polar shifts. I also read somewhere that all past extinctions on Earth Allign up with when we pass through the galactic belt. It also seems that the number of cosmic rays hitting the Earth is increasing. So what truth is there in these stories, what should we be preparing for? I can feel there is something coming, I have no doubt, but what?

You know what's weird? That calendar on my wall ends exactly 31st December 2009....
It must be the day the world will end.....

I only made one little statement on the Mayan calander because I know people like you will say something like that. I am trying to concerntrate on the hard evidence here...what the facts are and what the implications of these facts are!

Conspiratorial garbage. This is a philosophy forum...there might be room for these "theories" in the creative writing section though.

You shouldn't make such claims without looking at the evidence...you truly are oblivious to what's happening in the world arn't you? I'm trying to figure this out not plainly dismiss it because it sounds like a load of crap, the evidence is seeming to pile up endlessly, there is more to this than the normal conspiracy, only those scared of the implications dismiss this one...

Look, people can theorise about what may or may not happen in the future, but they can never be truly right because that's the nature of the whole thing! Back in the 19th Century they believed that the future lied in putting books into oprhan powered machines to automatically teach the rich children, which they based on the then undeniable evidence of the vastly expanding technological revolution. And they were wrong. There were also masses of theories of the Large Hadron Collider somehow destroying the world the moment it was first turned on. Didn't happen. Think to yourself how many apocalyptic theories there have been in the past, and how many were based on reasonable evidence, then consider the fact that you can still pinch yourself without waking up to an endless void.

There is absolutely no evidence that suggests that 2012 will be the year of cataclysmic events.

Sorry, folks.

Could 2012 be the year a meteor strikes and destroys life on Earth? Sure, it's possible, but we have no evidence that such a thing will occur.

Shift in Earth's polarity? There is evidence that this is occurring, but none that suggests that 2012 will be a pivotal year. Global warming: yep, this is happening, but it is happening this year as well and there is no evidence to suggests that something special will happen in 2012 relating to global warming that would not occur in 2011 or 2013.

2012 worries are typical: humans have always been easily riled up by talk of impending doom. That's what 2012 is: a psychological event.

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You all seem to missing the point. We are here to examine the evidence, and you all seem to avoiding the evidence that really matters. I am just as critical on this subject as the rest of you and we will never know the truth if the only way we look at is the same way we look at every other hocus pocus thoery we hear. This is not just a hocus pocus thoery, there is solid scientific evidence implying that 2012 won't be a normal year. The Government seems to be keeping this as quite as possible, which I can understand, people would freak out, but I want answers! Also, only the uneducated thought that the LHC would destroy the Earth on start up, the educated understood that the collision of two protons will not take place for a while, we are not in clear yet.

I'm not the one making the claims. You are. You should take your own advice, and actually provide us with this "evidence". Just referencing some conspiracy website you read doesn't count either.

People have been predicting the "end times" for centuries, and it seems that they have all been wrong so far. I will look at that real evidence and conclude that the next end-day scenario is probably also conspiratorial paranoia, until there is actual information to suggest otherwise.

This is my point, I am not clear on what evidence is real...I have heard all sorts of things and if some of it is correct we arn't going to like 2012. I just want to extract the truth from the lies! As far as I know every thing I stated in the original post is true, if anything is found to be false, please let us know!