I was notified of a response to a thread I was subscribed to on Vbulletin.org and I was reading down some of the posts and I ran into this one. So, out of curiosity I clicked the link in his signature because it said, Dear Atheist.... The link actually goes to:

www[dot] talkjesus[dot]com /get-saved-now/15308-dear-atheist.html. Check it out for yourselves.

Anyway, so I took some time to register, tell a little about myself and respond to the post. I filled out my biography and spent about an hour or more there actually filling everything out.

After reading the Dear Atheist... I couldn't help but respond. Immediately after I responded, I was banned. Not just banned, but my IP address was banned and everything so I cannot even see the forum. Here is the reason given:
Needless to say, wow... Go Jesus! I will never do this to any of you. As an administrator, I don't proclaim to be a Christian nor do I claim to love Jesus but I will never just ban you because I fear what you will say. I also value the time that you spend posting on these forums.

So anyway, here is the quotes written by Chad, the administrator of the TalkJesus.com forum along with my response to him that was immediately deleted. I look forward to your opinions on this.

I also did a quick search and found this post which also refers to Christian virtues of this administrator. I find it sad that people proclaiming to follow Jesus Christ are so far away from practicing that which they preach. It's no wonder the Christians have so many enemies in the world today.

Oh, and this is why I don't post on other forums.

What does this have to do with Atheism? Likewise, what does it have to do with Christianity?

Again, I don't understand your point. I'm not an atheist but have met some and everything you have said thus far has more to do with balance than anything else. Why would you address this to an Atheist when this is actually something an atheist would not contest. I'm confused and perplexed.
Yes, we were born. DNA is not mind boggling because DNA is stable and doesn't actually do anything. Proteins in the body actually carry out the functions of the body, not the DNA. The DNA, once uncovered, produces a carbon copy called RNA and thus we have the genetic manifestations.

The question is, what controls the protein or sends the signals to the proteins that encapsulate the DNA layer of the cell?

And again, what does this have to do with Atheism or Christianity?

The body being complex is true. Actually, out of the 50 trillion or so cells with your body, each individual cell has the exact same systems as your physical body, ie: nervous system, endocrine system, waste system, spinal system, senses... etc etc. Who says this is an accident?

There is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists subscribe so I find this to be somewhat stereotypical.
Jesus spoke of filling a hunger that cannot be filled with food of the physical world. Jesus needed not eat food after his awakening.

We have senses? Again, there's no disputing this and again I'm not sure what your point is. However, one thing to consider is that it is our senses that you mention that separate us from God. Our thinking is divided into opposing pairs of opposites of one divine being, (God). It's our thinking that creates our reality.
Ah, validity of scripture. You mean the scripture written by man? There's also ancient writings and artifacts proving the existence of Krishna. There are also countless accounts of way showers throughout history that have also been born of a virgin, died and resurrected after 3 days.

Faith in Christ and witness miracles... Of course. Anything that man embraces as faith and believes can manifest itself into seemingly miracles. It's a miracle that man knows everything and knows the way to heaven without knowing what man is or why he is.

Scriptures fulfilled?... Not sure what you mean here. Scriptures, understand, were written my man claiming to be enlightened by God. Each man that had written the scriptures received information from their own perception of what they believed to be God. It's still written by man.
Farmers and seeds. I don't have to be a farmer to plant a seed to know that whatever the seed I plant will produce none other than what that seed actually is. Of course the farmer didn't create the seed, the seed comes from nature and nature is the expression of both love and balance. What does this have to do with atheism and why is it addressed as such?

Your body need NO vitamins and NO nutrients! I've never read anything by Jesus saying such a thing. Our body needs nutrients because we believe it does and fear that if we don't, we will be ill and sick. It's the fear of lack that creates the lack. It's the fear of poverty that manifests poverty. It's the fear of obesity that manifests obesity. It's fear that has been instilled in these people and likewise we've manifested all of the things we fear.
I disagree with this completely. Knowledge is not something you can remember and repeat. Knowledge is not something you'll find within a book or on a forum. True knowledge and knowledge of truth can only come from the divine inspiration of God. Sure you can pick up some books and read them and fill your head with something someone else has written and experienced but to call this knowledge... ??

It's not Biowza who's eyes need to be opened. Pray for yourself because all men will come to know the kingdom of God when they are ready. We as men tend to see faults in others when the faults in others are merely a reflection of the faults within ourselves. The problems are not with Biowza and if we think they are, that's due to our own afflictions.

If this isn't what's commonly referred to as EGO, I don't know what is. Expose the lies within yourself and find the truth within yourself and you'll soon see Christ within others.

This takes practice. We can all preach and identify with the problems we see in others but to be Christ-like is to be born into the spirit of Christ. To transcend to the level of conscious awakening to know that the second coming of the Christ is the Christ ressurrected within mankind. It's not a deity separate and in a far away land of milk and honey.

Atheism is non Theism. It's not that they don't believe in God or that they believe in the big bang, they just don't believe in the same God you do. This comment is very Christ-like. Why call yourself a Christian just to show others what Christ would not do?

Then pray for yourself. You need not pray for anyone else.

Mere humans? Humble?

Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye. - Luke 6:42

In closing I found these words which I hope will inspire:

To bring blessing on yourself, bless your neighbor.
To enrich yourself, enrich your neighbors.
Honor your neighbor and your neighbor will honor you.
To sorely hurt yourself, hurt your neighbor.
He who seeks love will find it by giving it.
The measure of a man's wealth, is the measure of the of the wealth he has given.
To enrich your yourself with many friends, enrich your friends with yourself.
That which you take away from any man, the world will take away from you.
When you take the first step to give yourself to that which you want, it will also take the first step to give itself to you.
Peace and happiness do not come to you from your horizon. They spread from you out to infinity beyond your horizon.
The whole Universe is a mirror which reflects back to you, that which you reflect into it.
Love is like the ascent of a high mountain peak. It comes ever nearer to you as you go ever nearer to it.

Above written by Lao Russell

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"By a divine paradox, wherever there is one slave there are two. So in the wonderful reciprocities of being, we can never reach the higher levels until all our fellows ascend with us." - Edwin Markham

Often, atheists defile the word of Christ, in order to make Christianity look bad. Do not be fooled by such false prophets. By the sounds of things, that was a cult, or idol worship. Most agnostics, and many who call themselves atheists do so, ironically, because of false prophets. Its an old trick. Like the one political party sending out leaflets in the name of the other, that make the other look excessively liberal or excessively conservative.

Christ said "I am the truth"

Thus;
most philosophers are on the road to Jesus more than they realise, and many churches are nothing more than idol-worshippers. Just as in the time of Christ, it was the good samaritan who was near God, and the Rabbi, who was only concerned with himself.

;-j

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Well with Christians like the above, where does Jesus fit into the picture. I received an email from Chad, this is what he said:
This amazes me completely. It's no wonder America is at war and we have all kinds of radicalism in the world. Are people really this stupid? Am I living in a box?

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"By a divine paradox, wherever there is one slave there are two. So in the wonderful reciprocities of being, we can never reach the higher levels until all our fellows ascend with us." - Edwin Markham

What did you say to elicit that response?
I logged in and tried to introduce myself, and was not allowed to post or start a thread.

Um? Is this not such a box?
The blind leadeth the blind!

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I said:
This bothers me. I was raised Christian and my own parents will hardly speak to me. I shouldn't let this stuff bother me but it's a prime example of the state of our world and the state of our nation. It's no wonder why there are radical muslims wanting to do away with these radical Christians. I can see why. Not that I agree with either one but the percentage of people who follow Jesus Christ without knowing the Sermon on the Mount is perplexing. Jesus and the teachings of Jesus were an example. What is wrong with this world? What is wrong with me?

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"By a divine paradox, wherever there is one slave there are two. So in the wonderful reciprocities of being, we can never reach the higher levels until all our fellows ascend with us." - Edwin Markham

Wow,

I can't say I'm terribly surprised, but such fundamentalism will never cease to amaze me. It's sad... wouldn't such devils be the very people they'd want to embrace and bring into the fold? We've... such a long way to go. Little has changed, for many, in the last few thousand years.

I've seen in the last decade (perhaps less, maybe 5 years or so) an increasing amount of this vicious sort such as you found. It's as if the pendulum is swinging towards a deeper chasm between the mindsets (who was it? Was it William that was talking about 'the rift' between these opposing views?). To this day, I get tons of emails that could only be called propaganda. The folks who send these are good people! Really! But if they knew where my theology lay, I'd be summarily cut off.

Thanks for passing this along. Those who love their fellow human, absent of such bias, applaud ye efforts!

Fascinating, depressing, and all-round...disappointing.

But I guess that's why God created more than one forum

After all, is it a coincidence that the sun doth shine and the moon doth glow and this forum exists for those of us priveleged enough to know of its existence???? It MUST be the work of God.

And I'll personally ban anyone who thinks otherwise...or heck, even questions it!

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You are being crucified, oh child of Christ!

This is exactly what Jesus went through.
He preached orthodox Judaism,
he got nailed to a tree,
and called a God!

Its the little egos, that are envious of your ability to add depth of meaning to religion.
Some people have to come last in class.
They then give up on pursuing rationality,
as it makes them feel inadequate.

They really are children at heart.

Its sad. I think that more effort should be made to
help such people get through their learning blocks.

But the church offers them a safety net.
Such is the world

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I have had similar experiences with theology forums, forums where radical Christians dominate. Radical Christianity seems to be the dominant strain today.

People prefer to be lead and they abhor thinking for themselves. Instead of reading scripture on their own terms, they devour the dangerous ideology of televangelists and rabble-rousing ministers. At least here, on this forum, we enjoy the freedom to disagree.

Poseidon - Jesus did not teach orthodox Judaism. The God of Jesus is not the War God found in parts of the Old Testament.

Also, I do not think calling these ideologues children is helpful, or even accurate. Fundamentalism and extremism has causes, and the causes are not simply that all the idiots have grouped together. In many cases very bright individuals have been consumed by radical religious propaganda.

I am sure that no one would deny the right of an association of individuals to choose its Members and to establish criteria for inclusion, however silly those standards might be.

Unfortunately, this case illustrates Sartre's position that fear of truth goes hand-in-hand with the fear of freedom, and just as unfortunately, in a way, this attitude on the part of some enthusiastic sects sullies the majority of those who call themselves Christians.

We might possibly excuse the ignorant because they lack the resources for education or the proper tutors, but it is another thing entirely to excuse purposeful and active ignore-ance.

While the practice of philosophy needs no justification, it has served mankind well by fighting propaganda (of all kinds) whose goal is always to counterfeit reason to defeat reason.

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