Okay I'm not tryin to be offensive or anything. I'm just ran across this and thought it would be a good thread.

God is supposedly Omnipotent (All powerfull) and so, can he create a boulder so huge that he can not lift it?
Now, If you answer yes then he can not be all powerful as there is something he can not do (he wont be able to lift the rock). If you answer no there is also something he can not do (create the rock)

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Can we place God in such a human situation?

This question requires that we first establish some things about the nature of God. My suggestion would be that notions of God which allow for such speculation are probably misguided - I mean, it's not like anyone has ever seen God picking up rocks.

Yeah I am starting to think you are a comedian!!!!

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or picking up anything!

Well, what do you mean by "all-powerful"? Does this mean that he possesses all conceivable power? You're example shows that this would contradict itself. But, perhaps "all-powerful" means that he possesses all non-contradictory power. Thus, he can do everything as long as his abilities do not contradict each other.

Now, I do not necessarily believe this, but since God clearly cannot possess all conceivable power, I think that this definition of "all-powerful" is a much more practical one for this discussion. I'm sure, too, that there are some other and probably better definitions of "all-powerful". Either way, it's clear that God cannot have all conceivable power, for if he did, his various powers would contradict themselves.

Always a great debate...ever since it was first aired on the Simpsons­.
Still, I think that if he could achieve this then we would never know, since he would never subject himself to our whims.
But you could say a prayer and ask him...you never know, he may let you in on a secret.

4 billion years of evolution in order to ask if God can make a rock so big he can't lift it. ah well. why relate size and mass? a singularity is small, but infinitely heavy, so that even if god was infinitely strong - it'd be a stalemate. maybe that's where he's been since the dawn of time - trying to shift a singularity. he should really give it up but the thing is, he believes in himself!

Your provocative constraint pertaining to the abilities of omnipotence would also suggest that unless an Omnipotent Presence is capable of self destruction, then the claim of omnipotence would maintain validity, but the very nature of omnipotence only knows existence to be consistent with invoking immortal supremacy.

How come it is not surprising you response contains "we". Place God in such a human situation? Please refrain from devolving conversations into pathetic analogies consisting of child-like distinctions.

My best guess is that you have to imagine that God is prepared to discuss the situation involving the large boulder with the inquired guests rather than simply leap into the action of solving it with the physical prowess It may entail.

Now imagine God could create the universe in the form of a rock and of course it could not be lifted outside the form that is the universe. I wouldn't care that it could not be lifted as my sole question would be , where is there room for me and my world to exist without being simple minerals that are stagnant within the rock. Should that be of course what we are not anyway. So I really cannot answer the query myself and I have no point to add so as to embellish the question to fit a response by God.