Atheists...

[Didymos Thomas]

Holliday, I am 19 as of July. You are less than two years younger than me. I suspect Didymos is not too much older, I could easily be wrong.

20 as of July.

There is wisdom in Confucious, just as there is wisdom in Socrates, there is wisdom in the greek myths, just as there is wisdom in the writings of Hume.

You hit the nail on the head, as they say.

It seems that atheists, and even some agnostics, categorically dismiss "religious" material. They forget that secularism is an infant. If we look back on the history of philosophy, nearly every bit of the subject is spiritual in some way, if not down right religious.

[boagie]

A little Atheistic humor!

YouTube - lewis black explains religion

YouTube - On Bush, Bible, Fossils, Evolution, and Reality

[Holiday20310401]

I know we aren't supposed to be literal about this sort of thing but, honestly, people back then wanted to impose prestige, not ambiguity among others who read the bible, among such metaphorical context.

Not that I'm saying Didymos is wrong about reading the book should be read not literally

Edit: We should have a comedy thread on religion.

[astrotheological]

if there are any atheists here or even some heavy religious people you should watch a documentary called the zeitgeist. It will prove to you that religion is a waste of time. Although I still respect people who believe in that stuff though.
www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Hey boagie is there any more of that Aethieistic humour.Its awesome.

[Justin]

Zeitgeist the movie is also available on the forum. HERE!

[TickTockMan]

Originally Posted by SantaMonica1369

Just to play devil's advocate, because I agree completely, there's no proof that God doesn't exist...
Whats up with that?

If someone believes something and there's no proof against it, does that make it real?

Yes, to exactly the same degree as not believing in something makes it not real.

[MITech]

When you ask a question like...
Q:How do you know that the bible is correct?
A:Because God is the one who wrote it. It also says so in the bible.

Now the argument is assuming its own conclusion. How do we know that god exists. We don't. So how can we assume that the bible is correct. In fact how can we assume that god even wrote or had an influence in the bible. Can we really trust this sort of logic.

[Didymos Thomas]

Of course not - it's absurdly circular.

As a Christian, as someone who reads the text, I'm ashamed of such arguments.

The Bible isn't "correct". Mythology isn't a matter of correct/incorrect. Mythology passes on certain values. Homer is not correct, nor is Homer incorrect. Homer passes on certain values. Bible is hardly different, just a different set of values, even conflicting values depending on which parts you draw from.

[AtheistDeity]

I do not believe god ever existed... Why would I go out of my way to believe in it?

One basic attribute of human nature is to seek knowledge, and understanding. What better way to assume a complete and undeniable explanation than to take the word of an all-knowing, all-power deity?

Even if this deity does not give you every individual explanation of the universe, it gives a set style of living, and an explanation of what behavior is "right", and what behavior is "wrong". As well as the fact that it, (in many instances), is the only way to serve them, and gain immortal life, and passage to heaven. Quite a purpose to serve the will of the creator of the universe, huh?

I find it often true that "people want what they can't have". No one wants to think that one day they are going to die, and simply stop existing. They don't want to think that there is not a reason for them being alive. They don't want to live in a world without an all powerful being, with it's will of good is watching over them. If anything does not live up to their expectations they consider it unreasonable, because, to them, that is the reason, and beauty of life. Nor, do they want to think that one they love would suffer the same fate of going without those things. They want to think that if they live a certain way, and do everything "correctly" they will be rewarded, and live forever with the ones they love, and the one who created them.

I don't blame them. But, I, personally find more enjoyment living with what really is, and has become. Existing is enough purpose to be alive, in my opinion.

[Ennui]

Originally Posted by SantaMonica1369

Is God dead, or did he never exist?
How does your reasoning for being an atheist go?

Sometimes God had under oath to save humanity from all types of disasters or trails but He did not help,apparently He is indolent.People spend their time praying for remedy but He did not help,was He ignoring or no probity is inside His heart?

He cited that people whom had faith in Him would not suffer so much but is this genuine?It is unfeasible to everyone.He might even not exist,and some have hitherto been duped by His existence and praying with resolution.