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Old 11-13-2007, 11:08 PM
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Why cant Science see the truth?

Hello Everyone,

I am just beginning to read some of Walter Russell’s books and I am in awe. I have no formal training in science but to me what he talks about is the truth.

I have some questions that maybe the community might be able to answer;

1). Why does modern science dismiss Russell’s cosmology so quickly?
2). Are there any groups of scientists that embrace and promote his cosmology?
3). If we had more people who embraced his cosmology what kinds of new technology would he have today?

Thank you for your Time and Effort.
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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

We as human beings are always acting through one of two thoughts systems. One is fear based and we call it the ego. The other is based in Pure Unconditional Love which is the perfect Energy Russell is talking about. We have been letting the ego run our lives for so long that we have forgotten our reality. But we are awakening. The mass confusion we see the world today is the cleaning out process. You can’t put new wine into old skins.
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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

Hello Seeker,

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. After reading what you said and thinking about it, I looked up Walter Russell on the wikipedia and this statement I think is the answer to my first question and your statement is the cause.

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Such conflicts have left the work of Russell somewhat in the category of obscurity as his cosmology, while complete in itself, would require upon its academic and scientific acceptance not only the upheaval of many scientific theories, but also matters such as the nature of God. The connections between matters that many consider religious has left many to dismiss all of his material.
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Now I am wondering about my other 2 questions.

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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

if you look behind, you will find some mentions online of a Russell Science Research Team. youll find notices of gone-away journals being released in the 90s, that i have been trying to get access to but they are of course not sold via the philosophy.org bookshop.
i know that, for now, the three people stand, again, tim binder, toby grotz, ron kovac.
but i cannot vouch for how deep they got, it appears that not really that deep -- thus im hesitant to start accumulating money to purchase the rare-and-hard-to-find u.s. psychotropical association VHS's, + the fees to convert them from NTSC VHS to DVD so i could watch them myself..

maybe it would be good to have these videos for archival purposes, just to see, as sometimes with this forum, where things are not as russellian as they could be.
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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

Russell sent out a lot of material to scientists and universities. I can't help but think that someone somewhere with an R&D grant is working on his ideas. He had ties to the scientific community and corporations for years. Now perhaps they didn't buy all of what he was saying particularly that which they perceived as religious or spiritual but I feel some of his ideas are already present in technology and in theories.

I read occasionally about some tech idea and it sounds Russellian. Perhaps it was inspired by Russell or simply found to be the way a thing works...I'm not sure. The work of Sir Oliver Lodge and Sir William Crookes has been accepted in science and both these gentlemen experimented with somewhat out there ideas of the (a)ether which produced valid results. Russell while of the same lineage so to speak seems to have come along when scientific dogma was well in place and not willing to go his extra mile. If I remember correctly Lodge and Crookes met with much resistance too.
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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

there are claims that the russian academy utilize versions of walter russell's frequency charts, and that this would have been a book-accumulation-project in the 50s or 60s straight to russia. but i am yet to see the frequeny charts or any of it, so currently it is a claim, which might have full truth behind it, but as long as i dont have a picture to paste about these fancy charts, its just a rumour..
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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

Here is a question that the more experienced members might be able to answer.

As everything starts from nothing and then goes through its dynamic cycle of expansion/compression until it is refolded into the coldness, how can one track something as to where it is in its own cycle?

Sorry if I am unable to express my question in a clearer manner as I am not really sure how to say what I am asking.

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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

EK,
I am new to this site and I do not know how to us most of the software gadgets.

I don’t know if it can be tracked from the point of reference that I think you are asking the question from.

The way I understand it at this point is that the intelligence that forms an apple is not in the apple but acts through the apple. The apple goes through its states of being in a balance of harmony interacting with other forms of intelligence in different forms, it’s a divine randomness. The real us, Divine Beings having a human experience can interact and speed up or slow down the process.

The Divine intelligence in us as human beings will return to the source were we are all One with and as the Creator.

When we accept this we can more fully enjoy our experiences on earth. We don’t need to know how something works to enjoy it. We all interact with the Divine intelligence in things some time it works because we are working within the laws and sometimes it does not work the way we want it to.
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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

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Here is a question that the more experienced members might be able to answer.

As everything starts from nothing and then goes through its dynamic cycle of expansion/compression until it is refolded into the coldness, how can one track something as to where it is in its own cycle?

Sorry if I am unable to express my question in a clearer manner as I am not really sure how to say what I am asking.

Thank you for your Time
EK
“Every action is voided as it occurs, is repeated as it is voided, and recorded as it is repeated.”
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The Unfolding-Refolding Principle

“The two opposite electric expressions of desire of Mind unfold all idea of Mind from its pattern in the “seed” into imaged forms to simulate the idea of Mind and refold back into its recorded pattern in the “seed”, for again unfolding.”
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I do not claim to be an authority in anything other than my own illusion! This life that I live in this instant is my own, and the things which I will share I have made my own!

S. Gillis


Everything extends from the One. Every created thing has within it, centering it, the seed from which it extends. In Dr. Russell’s periodic table this concept is easily seen, and easy to follow. Dr. Russell indicated that the noble gasses were the seeds of their respective octaves. The elements unfold from and into these gasses as pairs and in rhythmic cycles. The same is true for complex organisms, (meaning they unfold and refold into their respective seeds) however when viewed like we view the periodic table it becomes an impossible task to find the seed. So how then do we accomplish this?

Simple;

One must shift ones perspective. Acknowledge that we cannot locate what we are after in the material sense, the organism is too complex. Instead seek out the fundamental pattern. It is the pattern which centers, and orders the noble gasses; it is always overlooked because ones attention is focused on the material. We don’t have to think hard and long to see that the pattern is a spiral, a double spiral. It can be said that the noble gas represents the material or substance out of which the elements will be composed, and the double spiral pattern is the recorder of that which emerges and returns to the seed which the noble gas represents. The spiral pattern is constant, centering the seed it waits until willed into action by Mind to preform its purpose of unfolding , refolding, and recording the ideas of Mind.

Go for a stroll, and observe the spiral centering all of the Creators creations, unfolding them from seeds, and refolding them into seeds, recording knowledge gained in this cycle for the benefit of the next!


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Re: Why cant Science see the truth?

Hello Seeker and RememberIAM,

Thank you both for taking the time and effort to respond to my queries. I would also like to thank you for imparting your knowledge and perspective to make my journey easier.

I know I have a long road ahead, so once again thank you
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