The Matrix

[TickTockMan]

Originally Posted by Holiday20310401

Is there any such classification as a philosophical thriller/drama? Those are what I'd be into.

Have you ever seen a movie called Dark City? It came out about a year before The Matrix. It has a very similar premise, but deals with it much better than The Matrix. It just doesn't have all the snazzy effects.

Dark City is one of those very rare movies that I felt compelled to watch twice in a row. . .

I'd classify it as Philosophical Film Noir Thriller Drama.

[Holiday20310401]

Thanks, say if you're into thrillers I'd suggest watching Fracture.

[Theaetetus]

Originally Posted by TickTockMan

Have you ever seen a movie called Dark City? It came out about a year before The Matrix. It has a very similar premise, but deals with it much better than The Matrix. It just doesn't have all the snazzy effects.

Dark City is one of those very rare movies that I felt compelled to watch twice in a row. . .

I'd classify it as Philosophical Film Noir Thriller Drama.

I agree that Dark City is far superior to the Matrix, and is a better representation of the brain-in-a-vat hypothesis.

[Holiday20310401]

The video store doesn't have a copy. Anyone got a link to watching the movie?

[TickTockMan]

Originally Posted by Theaetetus

I agree that Dark City is far superior to the Matrix, and is a better representation of the brain-in-a-vat hypothesis.

... and Equilibrium is a far deeper exploration of what is meant by "humanity" than The Matrix. Plus it has cool fight scenes.

Don't get me wrong though, I do really enjoy The Matrix (the first one anyway). It's just that I find it to be a bit of a salad bar of philosophical ideas . . . a little of this, a little of that, take what you like and ignore the stuff you don't.

To be fair, I do have to give The Matrix credit for introducing me to Baudrillard (remember the title of the hollow book where Neo had the illegal software for Choi and his friends?).

[JoseyDaisyChains]

Thats what scares me the most, not being able to distinguish between whats true and whats bull****. what if we believe to be the real world is actually completely different to everyone else saw?
just think if you started talking to these really interesting people and going coffee shops for chats and to the cinema but couldnt understand why people were staring at you so weirdly in public.
haha i KNow that completely off your point but it reminded me of something ive always been weary of >.<
like Kant points out about conceptual schemes, we all wearing different spectacles. back to what you were saying i think that would make a funny spoof film

[Wingman]

Originally Posted by Theaetetus

The Matrix is nothing but a remake of the brain-in-a-vat hypothesis of skepticism.

Ya but way more cool.
haha

What I found funny was at the begining of the movie when Neo opens the door and sells the chip to that one guy. When he opens the hollowed out book and the page next to all the money is titled "Nihlism" (I hyperlinked it for those of you who do not know what this is.) Which just screams that this is a dream and he is in some kind of virtual reality

[TickTockMan]

Originally Posted by Wingman

Ya but way more cool.
haha

What I found funny was at the begining of the movie when Neo opens the door and sells the chip to that one guy. When he opens the hollowed out book and the page next to all the money is titled "Nihlism" (I hyperlinked it for those of you who do not know what this is.) Which just screams that this is a dream and he is in some kind of virtual reality

..... and the hollowed out book is: Simulacra and Simulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

which speaks volumes. Pun intended.

[Wingman]

Originally Posted by TickTockMan

..... and the hollowed out book is: Simulacra and Simulation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

which speaks volumes. Pun intended.

OH HAHA Nice Catch