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Plato 428 B.C. - 347 B.C. Plato, originally named Aristocles (Plato means "broad-shouldered"), was one of the early stars of Western philosophy.

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Re: Truth and Belief

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Obviously enough, an objective truth that can only be be subjectively known is an oxymoron.

The objective truth is a belief, not a truth

"Objective" means "believe this or else"

"Subjective means, "go away, your opinion is not convenient"

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Could you give me an example of how you know with out subjective understanding, don't give me dictionary samples. simple abuse
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Re: Truth and Belief

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Obviously enough, an objective truth that can only be be subjectively known is an oxymoron.

The objective truth is a belief, not a truth

"Objective" means "believe this or else"

"Subjective means, "go away, your opinion is not convenient"

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Hi Perplexity,

Why do you think that an objective truth that can only be subjectively known, to be any more incongruous than the concepts of yin and yang?

And where does objective's threat of "or else" come from? So too, why do you see "subjective" meaning something so antisocial as "go away?"
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Re: Truth and Belief

Objective's threat of "or else" comes from questions like "why do you think" and "why do you see?"

Why do you think?

Why do you see?

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The ladies pretentiousness has caught up with her.
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"Subjective" is the ultimate ad hominem.

For want of a better way to consider, disparage the person.

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Re: Truth and Belief

Give me an example of your knowing that is not subjecitve.
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subjective - Definitions from Dictionary.com

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Re: Truth and Belief

Give me an example of your knowing that is not subjective.
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Re: Truth and Belief

Objectivity gives what was already known.

Subjectivity offers what was not required.

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Re: Truth and Belief

To whom might the question involve, is there no subject present, the lights are on but there is no one home. You are simply silly, silly and pretentious.

"Objectivity gives what was already known."

So the objective world knows and gives what it knowns to who, and why would it do that. Knowing then is out there is it. Really find some other pasttime.
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