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Philosophy of Science Philosophy of Science is concerned with how science operates, what the goals of science should be, what relationship science should have with the rest of society, and so on. Does causation really exist? What is the cause of all effect? How does Science explain nature?

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Old 06-16-2008, 07:11 PM
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Re: Consciousness Of The Germ Plasma

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I thought vitamin C was water soluble??? The worst you could get from 2000 mg of vitamin c is expensive pee.
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I thought vitamin C was water soluble??? The worst you could get from 2000 mg of vitamin c is expensive pee.
It is indeed water soluble, you're correct, but that property doesn't make something non-toxic. Water solubility affects many things, including ability to enter cells through diffusion (vs active transport mechanisms), absorption from the gut, distribution through the body, half life, etc. But there are many other factors that determine toxicity, of course.

Vitamin C has 2 negative charges (if I recall correctly), which makes it a very good chelating agent for divalent cations (like Mg2+ and Ca2+). Chronically high doses can leach calcium out of teeth and bones, leading to demineralization of teeth, osteopenia / osteoporosis, and precipitation of the calcium/vitamin C salts in the kidneys causing nephrolithiasis (stones). Excessive doses can also interfere with coagulation factors and lead to bleeding (I'm not sure of the mechanism here).
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Interesting information, thanks! So I would suppose that the amount of vitamin C each person could reasonably absorb is relative to that person? I was taught that 2000 mg was the benchmark for a healthy adult male.
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Interesting information, thanks! So I would suppose that the amount of vitamin C each person could reasonably absorb is relative to that person? I was taught that 2000 mg was the benchmark for a healthy adult male.
I'm not sure of the pharmacokinetics, and I think 2000 mg is the upper limit of what is safe. Toxicity has been seen at 4000 mg daily. To be sure it is quite safe. I'd suggest getting your recommended daily allowance by eating a well rounded diet, rather than taking it as supplements. There are a lot of nutrients that we probably haven't discovered in fruits in addition to the traditional vitamins (just as resveritrol isn't the only beneficial compound in wine).
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A little disturbing to ponder that something else is running the show, that we are in fact manifestations/constructs of the will of the genotype. Any thoughts??
Actually it makes sense to me. It would explain the new evolution theory that an evolutionary occurrence is indeed very instant. That at some point of meiosis the plasmids have a compiled data source that is registered to an instinct of what should get deleted and what should stay. Eventually something would trigger a deletion. To me, this kind resembles the need for a conscience.
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Actually it makes sense to me. It would explain the new evolution theory that an evolutionary occurrence is indeed very instant. That at some point of meiosis the plasmids have a compiled data source that is registered to an instinct of what should get deleted and what should stay. Eventually something would trigger a deletion. To me, this kind resembles the need for a conscience.
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Biology is still a majestic mystery, all kinds of revealations unfolding. You might want to investiagate this, evolutionary biology from somewhat of a different slant, its is called, Shift Theory, if nothing else it gets the wheels turning. Find below the link to it.

Human Evolution: An Alternative Theory
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Vitamin C has 2 negative charges (if I recall correctly), which makes it a very good chelating agent for divalent cations (like Mg2+ and Ca2+). Chronically high doses can leach calcium out of teeth and bones, leading to demineralization of teeth, osteopenia / osteoporosis, and precipitation of the calcium/vitamin C salts in the kidneys causing nephrolithiasis (stones). Excessive doses can also interfere with coagulation factors and lead to bleeding (I'm not sure of the mechanism here).

Its stuff like that that's just best no to be spread around. I mean, there's a negative to pretty much anything that enters your system, just I'd rather not know it sometimes.
I'm not sure the consciousness relies on vitamin C but it would be funny!!
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