Evil Is Good And God Doesn't Exist???

[boagie]

Zetherin,

What did you have in mind? At a forum like this a least you can express your concerns, what kind of medium are you thinking about, the internet. You are thinking of becoming an activist, what moves in that direct have you made? Be sure not to spam here, or recruit, though if you start a thread to work up enthusiasm that certain would not offened anyone.

Good Luck Zetherin

[Zetherin]

Originally Posted by boagie

Zetherin,

What did you have in mind? At a forum like this a least you can express your concerns, what kind of medium are you thinking about, the internet. You are thinking of becoming an activist, what moves in that direct have you made? Be sure not to spam here, or recruit, though if you start a thread to work up enthusiasm that certain would not offened anyone.

Good Luck Zetherin

That's the thing - I am unsure as to the way to approach this. I don't want to seem as an elitist. That is, I don't want people to think I'm pushing this as "This is the way, all hail blah blah blah". That, to me, would be exactly like a religion. That's not what I'm aiming for, and I sure as hell don't want to spam. The prospect of an activist also doesn't seem like the right path. It's very tricky to understand the way I should express this. I don't immediately want to work up enthusiasm, as working up enthusiasm means I will also be working up disgust in others.

Somehow I need a way to spark thought in the majority, while not pushing people to lose comfortability immediately. And, somehow I would have to push the idea that a more open-minded philosophy would benefit humanity, without it sounding cultish, or a "what I say, goes" type of situation.

Perhaps I'm thinking of the impossible, and can't really transcend what I'm hoping to. But, a part of me still wants to enlighten.

Eh, maybe I should just get a 9 to 5 desk job and shut my ****ing mouth.

[boagie]

Zetherin,

If you feel inspired in something, go with it, you will find no shortage of negativity on this journey, but, negativity never created anything but a bad disposition in its holder.

[urangutan]

Zetherin, consider something that resembles a four-way, tug-of-war. It can be any direction in opposition, this just works for description, the north south line is used for suspension, while the east west line keeps the ******** static, between of course is the weight that can be carried aloft of the surface.

Like this concept. In return for the Rosseta Stone, one of the Twin Spires and I think it is a complete bust of Nefrititi, Egypt will allow the English, French and Germans to enter into Egypt with companies willing to defabricate an ancient Pyramid and then rebuild and restore it. All information belongs to the four of the group but no artifacts are to be removed.

Sorry about this. I chose a word that is phalic in nature, though it was simply a descriptive term applied to something that stands erect or upright if this word gets edited as well. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[infinidream]

Originally Posted by boagie

infinidream,

The semantics of duality. I think you need to determine what constitutes good and what constitutes evil

I did make the mistake of not stating that I had the christian god, good, and evil in mind when I wrote my original premise. that was silly and vague of me to leave that out. Its funny how sometimes something is so present in your mind that you assume the other person knows what you mean.

[infinidream]

I did make the mistake of not stating that I had the christian god, good, and evil in mind when I wrote my original premise. that was silly and vague of me to leave that out. Its funny how sometimes something is so present in your mind that you assume the other person knows what you mean.

[boagie]

Originally Posted by infinidream

I did make the mistake of not stating that I had the christian god, good, and evil in mind when I wrote my original premise. that was silly and vague of me to leave that out. Its funny how sometimes something is so present in your mind that you assume the other person knows what you mean.

infinidream,

Christianity and its god have had two thousand years to save the world, what makes you think that is going to happen now? I am afraid I do not share you optimism of the power of religion to right the world, at present they do little but alienate one another. Religion appears just one more catagory of separation and alienation----the in group.

[Zetherin]

Originally Posted by boagie

infinidream,

Christianity and its god have had two thousand years to save the world, what makes you think that is going to happen now? I am afraid I do not share you optimism of the power of religion to right the world, at present they do little but alienate one another. Religion appears just one more catagory of separation and alienation----the in group.

I couldn't agree more. It's almost ironic that the initial premise of religion was to bring us together, instigating peace to all. And what has it ultimately done? Separated us, and caused war.

[urangutan]

I think you all have this last point wrong. It is not religion that seperates us but the church. It cannot be religion as they are virtually the same and the church (temple mosque or whatever) and its followers split the atom that is belief, to suit themselves.

[Zetherin]

Originally Posted by urangutan

I think you all have this last point wrong. It is not religion that seperates us but the church. It cannot be religion as they are virtually the same and the church (temple mosque or whatever) and its followers split the atom that is belief, to suit themselves.

What is the 'church'? Are you speaking of the Roman Catholic Church, speaking of the political power it holds?

As I've noted in another post, I relate religion to being in a cage - it strips the imagination, leaving your thoughts confined to a certain set of criteria. The ignorance, lack of understanding (or at the very least, an attempt to understand), and the strict adherence to a concrete set of morals are some of the problems. This leaves no room for abstract thinking. And even though this bothers me, I could live with it. The thing I cannot live with is the pushing of the religion onto me, my loved ones, with a disclaimer that this is the *one and only way*.

Many a war has started because of religion...the ideals behind such beliefs, not necessarily intervention by the church. With a belief such as, "If you're not Christian, you go to hell", what do you expect? And many people I know share this belief. They aren't even understanding of another religion, let alone an agnostic! People are literally shunned, and believed to be 'evil', just for different notions. Isn't that utterly upsetting to you?

So, while we could make arguments that YES the church (or political powers) behind such religions do do harm, it by no means means religion in general does no harm.