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Old 11-11-2007, 09:19 AM
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Confusing language!

Here in Norway, we learn two Norwegian languages in school, "Bokmål" and "Nynorsk" and in the northern parts another one "Samisk".

"Bokmål" and "Nynorsk" are similar, but also differs a lot, example:

Norway = Norge(Bokmål) and Noreg(Nynorsk) "similar"

Window = Vindu(Bokmål) and Vindauge(Nynorsk) "somewhat similar but differs quite a bit"

How = Hvordan(Bokmål) and Korleis(Nynorsk) "differs a lot"

"Samisk" even though some of my fellow countrymen speak it, I have no understanding of it, I actually don't know a single word.

And Norwegian is full of different dialects that sounds so different that you can hardly tell that they are the same language.
Example:

My dialect "trøndersk" (and there are many different dialects within "trøndersk", I speak something in between "Trondhjæmsk" and "fosnsk")
sounds something like "Æ e ittj heillt rekti nagla i haue"(saying "I`m not completely right in my head")

The same phrase in plain "bokmål" is "Jeg er ikke helt riktig naglet i hodet"

And in "nynorsk" it`s "Eg er ikkje heilt rektig nagla i haudet"(not quite sure it`s 100% correct)

I don`t know how it`s in other countries, but Norwegian really confuses my knowledge of language!

Any thought`s
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Re: Confusing language!

Hi, molok69.

Your language situation appears to be all messed up; sorry for you .

We don't really have that in America. But I come from Boston and we do speak differently from the rest of the country.

In Boston we say 'Paahk the kah'. Instead of 'park the car' etc.

Here is a link that I found on the web is for having a conversation like in Norway: jabberwacky - live chat bot - AI Artificial Intelligence chatbot - jabber wacky - talking robot -chatterbot The program asks you questions and then you talk to it, it's fun

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Re: Confusing language!

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Re: Confusing language!

I find it confusing too. Norway need to unite under one language! ...Or maybe we should try to convert into English, that would be great!

Æ e hærdd trønder forresten, men æ kjæm fra Telemark.
(I'm half trønder by the way, but I come from Telemark)
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Re: Confusing language!

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The same phrase in plain "bokmål" is "Jeg er ikke helt riktig naglet i hodet"
I think we here in southern Norway rather would say:
Jeg har en skrue løs

Maybe I'm a bit finicky?
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Re: Confusing language!

Several other European nations have just as much trouble;some parts speak German, others either Italian or French. And not only do you have to deal with two very distinct dialects, you have to learn English as well!
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Several other European nations have just as much trouble;some parts speak German, others either Italian or French. And not only do you have to deal with two very distinct dialects, you have to learn English as well!
Here in Norway we don't have great difficulty in understanding each other the languages don't defer that much. The problem is that if you use one of the two languages, you have to learn the other language as well. Molok69 has more trouble though. He is from the middle of Norway, or Trønderlag, and has a dialect that doesn't match either of the two written languages. The difference between "Trøndersk" (Trøndish if i should make an english version) and the dominating written language called Bokmål, is more comprehensive than the difference between Bokmål and the second language Nynorsk. The difference between Nynorsk and Trøndersk is just as big. No doubt that Molok69 has a difficult language situation.

I speak a dialact that's very close to Bokmål, so the only thing i have to worry about is my bad grade in Nynorsk!
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Here in Norway we don't have great difficulty in understanding each other the languages don't defer that much. The problem is that if you use one of the two languages, you have to learn the other language as well. Molok69 has more trouble though. He is from the middle of Norway, or Trønderlag, and has a dialect that doesn't match either of the two written languages. The difference between "Trøndersk" (Trøndish if i should make an english version) and the dominating written language called Bokmål, is more comprehensive than the difference between Bokmål and the second language Nynorsk. The difference between Nynorsk and Trøndersk is just as big. No doubt that Molok69 has a difficult language situation.

I speak a dialact that's very close to Bokmål, so the only thing i have to worry about is my bad grade in Nynorsk!
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Hi, molok69.

Your language situation appears to be all messed up; sorry for you .

We don't really have that in America. But I come from Boston and we do speak differently from the rest of the country.

In Boston we say 'Paahk the kah'. Instead of 'park the car' etc.

Here is a link that I found on the web is for having a conversation like in Norway: jabberwacky - live chat bot - AI Artificial Intelligence chatbot - jabber wacky - talking robot -chatterbot The program asks you questions and then you talk to it, it's fun

Cheers!
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People in America are divided by language, and are perhaps divided on that line everywhere... When you do not have a common culture, and no common mother, as all true nations... When any person says a word like freedom, there is no reason to believe he holds the same difinition as yourself... That line from Voltair: If you would discourse with me, define your terms -was never more true any place than this... And if you have to spend all of your time talking about talking, then that is the second intention...
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