Would you trade your life for a happy feeling?

[Sytar Embassy]

Ok, so then heres a little something we talked about in my class today. Is there a moral right and a moral wrong? something that every last person on the Earth would agree is right and something that everyone would agree is wrong? Of course, people in my class said no because we are only human and we disagree with each other. However, my teacher asked if we could come up with one. we where stumped.

Now, I said, "There can never be a moral right and a moral wring because as everyone has said, 'we are all only human.' When we lock up someone for a crime here, some group of people somewhere else in the world would say that we are the ones that should be locked up."

Then we got this new concept of Utilitarianism. So, heres the new situation.
"There is Guy 1. he is being robbed by Guy 2. Guy 1 and Guy 2 you have never meet before in your life. Guy 1 is in the house while Guy 2 is robbing him. Guy 1 finds a gun(how he does is not important). Under Utilitarianism, does Guy 1 have the moral right to shoot and kill Guy 2, or continue to let Guy 2 rob him. Guy 1 has no other opions. Kill Guy 2, or let himself get robbed."

What do you think?

[iconoclast]

Is there a moral right and a moral wrong?

Try human extinction occuring as a result of human action or inaction. This works as a moral absolute because existence is non-contingent - which is to say that all else is contingent on existence to have meaning.

If the general principle of utilitariansim is the greatest good for the greatest number - I don't see how utilitarianism is brought up by this scenario. There's two guys. It's only if you universialize the outcome you might consider, in utilitarian terms, the consequences for a society that allows or disallows killing in defense of property.

I'd argue against killing because it is better that someone is robbed than someone is killed. Utilitarianism doesn't involve itself in further moral considerations - calling moral that which serves the greatest good for the greatest number.

[Didymos Thomas]

O man, me is confused! "A warm gun?" Could you explain your self a little on that?

Beatles song. From the White Album. Bad joke, sorry.

[Sytar Embassy]

My mom would have told me that if she read that... maybe. Anyway, thanks for explaining that. But as regaurds to my statement. I would have to agree with you. When my teacher explained the whole thing, i just started back with a ".... What?"face. but near the end of his rant, i was starting to understand what this all is.

I came up with an inventive solution though. I would help the guy rob me. that way i could get a close look at his car, plate number, and maybe the guy. Then report him to the police later. lol. It doesn't fit into the situation, but i thinks it pretty funny. My teacher laughed a little too, but said, "thats not an opion."

[iconoclast]

satyr (and boagie)

please, pleese, pleez, it's not reguards - it's regards. from regarding - not re-guards, as in to guard again. but regard as in to view or to hold in high esteem.

iconoclast.

[Sytar Embassy]

Sorry, my spelling is really bad. Just please try to bear with me.

[iconoclast]

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[CORGIGUY]

philosiphically don't you think true happiness comes when you are able organize your life in such way that events have a purpose and meaning that reflect your own individuality. in other words when you are living life in your own terms and are involved in a projects of your own choosing then you have sense that you are directing your own path. i think that's when you experience true happiness.

[Sytar Embassy]

True words, Corgiguy. The best part of life is being able to live it.

let change the situation, again. Lets say that while you are in the box. A simulation of thing that make you happy are displayed in your mind so not only do you feel happy, but you can see it too. Alos, the box will shoot situlation into your body to make you movelike you would in the happy thought. Thus, creating a flawless alternet reality. How do that change idea?

[CORGIGUY]

look IMHO what you are describing is a mood , something temporary that has no meaning akin to being in some sort of high. to me happiness is the result of of being engaged in living being involved in something that of your own choosing.