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Old 06-04-2008, 04:06 PM
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Atheists...

Is God dead, or did he never exist?
How does your reasoning for being an athiest go?

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My upbringing was religiously neutral and it always seemed a given that religion was wrong. When I was younger I used to notice that religion clearly compensates for un-wanted/acceptable truths, clearly sensationalizes the public through ritual and community- the candle lit mass and what not. Refuses to develop/evolve (things like gay marriage, age of the earth etc.) because of fear of compromising the integrity of the belief-system, whatever it may be.

Also things like ancient mythology and its uncanny resemblance in intent to religion, the evidence, of course, and mentalists like Evangelical young-earth Christians preaching utter lies to destroy the public in spite of the evidence.

I never got it and never will, that's why I'm an atheist.

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Is God dead, or did he never exist?
How does your reasoning for being an athiest go?
SantaMonica,

Sorry, I keep forgetting this is for the young philosopher, heavy duty questions just the same, no wonder I keep adding my two cents worth without realizing where I am.




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Just to play devil's advocate, because I agree completely, there's no proof that God doesn't exist...
Whats up with that?

If someone believes something and there's no proof against it, does that make it real?
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If your deluded, yes.
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How does your reasoning for being an athiest go?
My 9 year old boy just went through his first communion last week, and had to do some reading beforehand.

I think he's on the road to being an Atheist, since he asked me about the flood: "If Noah was supposed to get two of every animal, and there's fifty thousand types of animals on Earth, wouldn't he die of old age before ever catching them all?"

And, "40 days and 40 nights is a really long time to stay on a boat...what did they eat, since they didn't have refrigerators and freezers back then to store food?"

Yeah he is definitely a skeptic.
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Ah, but the skeptic is not necessarily an atheist.

Honestly believing in a historical figure Noah who collected the animals, ect is silly. Bright kid to catch onto the absurdity; nine is very young to have such an independent intellect
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Say everybody, I do not like the direction this topic is taking. Remarks such as
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If someone believes something and there's no proof against it, does that make it real?
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If your deluded, yes.
are quite "off" to me. I we would reason in such a way I could easily say that each and every one posting in this topic is deluded (and be right about it instead of just saying it as de budding did).

Lets look at this from an impartial point, shall we?

The reason people ask questions about "God" is because "God" has been the solution to all causal chain-reactions for milannia. Nowadays many call this "God" "Big Bang". "Nature" has also been proposed to take the place of this "God", and "Nothing" is a nominee as well. The fact that all of these different people feel the need to give such things a name proves that we do not know what is going on and we do want to know. ALl of the above are wondering what a solution to the question of origin might be and all are equally guilty of the same thing: guessing.

All of the answers to the question mean the same thing: origin; creation. So, there you have it people, atheists are really religious nutcases, just like all others.
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My 9 year old boy just went through his first communion last week, and had to do some reading beforehand.

I think he's on the road to being an Atheist, since he asked me about the flood: "If Noah was supposed to get two of every animal, and there's fifty thousand types of animals on Earth, wouldn't he die of old age before ever catching them all?"

And, "40 days and 40 nights is a really long time to stay on a boat...what did they eat, since they didn't have refrigerators and freezers back then to store food?"

Yeah he is definitely a skeptic.
But isn't that confusing religion with a possible God? If we take that approach, aren't we just refuting what someone from x thousand years ago thought was God?

Anyway, your boy sounds like a smart fella.
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Say everybody, I do not like the direction this topic is taking. Remarks such as

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are quite "off" to me. I we would reason in such a way I could easily say that each and every one posting in this topic is deluded (and be right about it instead of just saying it as de budding did).

Lets look at this from an impartial point, shall we?

The reason people ask questions about "God" is because "God" has been the solution to all causal chain-reactions for milannia. Nowadays many call this "God" "Big Bang". "Nature" has also been proposed to take the place of this "God", and "Nothing" is a nominee as well. The fact that all of these different people feel the need to give such things a name proves that we do not know what is going on and we do want to know. ALl of the above are wondering what a solution to the question of origin might be and all are equally guilty of the same thing: guessing.

All of the answers to the question mean the same thing: origin; creation. So, there you have it people, atheists are really religious nutcases, just like all others.
Religion isn't really concerned with questions anymore; they've done there bit now they just sit back and work on their apologetics department, in fact the less questions the better as far as they are concerned... where as the older I get the more skeptical and inquisitive I seem to get. Also I'm open to change my perception and view at any time, and I often do entertain religious thoughts but, even thought they never lead any where because they are wrong I still entertain them from time to time.

I think the behavioral, social and historic side of religion speaks for itself, there was never any need to delve deeper than that, save the questions for experts who will at least accept the answer they get and not try to manipulate it into their world view.

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