Atheists...

[Justin]

He was talking to both of you.

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[Pangloss]

Originally Posted by boagie

I say, well, to be religious at all is to be an extremist. It’s to be extremely irrational.

And how does Bill Maher qualify this statement? Is he the judge in determining extremism? Because "to be religious at all" includes about 85% of the people in this world, so it is certainly not extreme nor "extremely irrational" to them, the overwhelming majority.

[UnMechanics]

I'm an atheist and hate all my friends for being atheists frankly. They take on the form of 'teenage' atheism of elitist, ganging up on religious persons and picking fights whenever they can.

I'm atheist and though i used to be like that, I now can appreciate a lot about religion and understand that it makes no true difference whether you are religious or not.

There are crazy atheists and crazy religious people and even a few crazy agnostics: all of those minorities are as bad as each other

[R.Danneskjöld]

I would never brand myself an Atheist, i could never disprove the existence of a God(s). So any position of intellectual integrity has to contain a certain degree of agnosticism. What worry's me is the way that many religious people take a position which contains no degree of agnosticism.

In a sense does the possibility of a 'God' effect the descions I make in my life then I would answer with a resolute No. It is in this sense that I could be defined as an Atheist.

Dogmatic positions at either end of the spectrum are bound to cause problems. We should always be willing to challenge our belief's. This should be key in our approach to all the important questions, that we will be faced with.

[Khethil]

Originally Posted by R.Danneskjöld

I would never brand myself an Atheist, i could never disprove the existence of a God(s)...

It hasn't anything to do with proof. It has to do with what you believe (or don't, or neither)

[Didymos Thomas]

But what one believes may very well be related to what one (thinks they) can or cannot prove.

[Khethil]

Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas

But what one believes may very well be related to what one (thinks they) can or cannot prove.

Yes, and it may not.

[Didymos Thomas]

But the very fact that what one (thinks they) can or cannot prove can influence belief means that what someone believes can have a great deal to do with what they (think they) can or cannot prove.

What someone can or cannot prove might have a great deal to do with belief. In the case of R. Danneskjold, what he can or cannot prove seems to influence his belief.

[Khethil]

Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas

But...

Surely, and the litany of other factors that have a potential bearing on ones' belief are at least as vast as people themselves are.

[AWohlfarth]

God, Yaway, Allah, Shiva, Dana (Celtic), Inti (Inca), Odin (Norse), Ukko (Finnish) ...well you get the point.

Their are not only two options. Most turn away from Christianity to Atheism...so yes maybe their isnt this one supreme "figure" as we have embodied. There is also other religions though, Theravada Buddhism is based in philosophy, it is often times even called a "Athiest" religion by the less open-minded. At any rate it shows a higher sense of a overall...balance or force. So we are not restricted to do or die from Christianity.