Infinity

[Holiday20310401]

Ok I was pondering infinity for a minute and realized that if I looked at infinity in two categories I could reason 1, sort of.

If I looked at infinity at an instantaneous perspective like, if in one instant I can only grasp a certain amount of knowledge from my brain then I guess I could give it value 4 or something like that. And then the rest of my knowledge in the brain could have value 10,000,000.

In the context of an instant I have all that knowledge potentially, but not able to grasp in the instant so it remains latent. So relative to an instant, 10,000,000 is infinity. Our minds handle infinity as a syntax because each instant cannot stack so I cannot have 4+4+4... and eventually get to 10,000,000. That's 4D perception in which case infinity has to be infinity squared to be infinity, which we can still grasp, because the universe can be no other way, because the information does stack in a certain manner, causality. All actions result as reason for probable effects. This connotes quite similarily to 4+3+1.6+0.4+0.007...

I think we have imperfect 4D perception in which memory acts as the residue. So 4+3+1.6+0.4+0.007...

So perhaps the universe is perceived the way it is based on the limited potential of the mind.

However, if infinity is unconditional, it remains irrational. So is infinity just an illusion or is it existent. Afterall, our minds create the idea of infinity.

So infinity is just the unapproachable in relation to time. If there is time then infinity is a relative proportion, if not, then infinity doesn't exist?

[jgweed]

It might be that the mind has a large amount of knowledge potentially, but isn't it able to select from that potential the bits of knowledge that is useful (or applies) to the subject-at-hand? I many have many interesting facts---animal, vegetable, and mineral like the modern major-general---in my head, the table of elements, state capitals, times tables, and Shakespear's sonnets all memorised, but these "do not count" when I am considering which restaurant to go to, or the problem of Plato's Forms.

I also suggest that if infinity is a universal, then it is not necessary to have each and every example before the mind, to conceive of it (in which case it would have "existence") just as, for example, it is not necessary to have before one's mind a mental picture of every chair one has seen in one's life to understand the universal "chair."

[Holiday20310401]

Is infinity the same as nothing? You subtract 1 from infinity and you still get equal to infinity so it has no value.

[validity]

Originally Posted by Holiday20310401

Is infinity the same as nothing? You subtract 1 from infinity and you still get equal to infinity so it has no value.

If when you say nothing, you mean zero, then infinity is not the same as zero. Infinity is not a number, so subtraction is meaningless, whereas zero is a number, so subtraction from zero has meaning.

You can not subtract numbers from non-numbers.

[Holiday20310401]

No, nothing is not zero. Zero is a value.

[boagie]

Holiday,

Nothing has value that is not given it by a subject such as yourself. You have given the symbolic figure one above, a material value. You also give infinity x numerical value. These in my mind are rather different concepts, but yeah, it is you that is supplying the values and you that supplies any meaning there of. If you really considered infinity, I think you would find that you could not subtract anything from infinity, simply because your part of it, standing on the corner of nowhere and everywhere.

[Holiday20310401]

So then if the universe is syntactically infinite then every single indivisible object is interconnected to every single other indivisible object.

[validity]

Originally Posted by Holiday20310401

So then if the universe is syntactically infinite then every single indivisible object is interconnected to every single other indivisible object.

It certainly takes the six degrees of separation to a universal level.

What do you mean by interconnected?

[xris]

infinity is a second away and the infinite universe an inch away...time and distants describes our relationship to each of them but they can never describe infinty..

[validity]

Originally Posted by Holiday20310401

So then if the universe is syntactically infinite then every single indivisible object is interconnected to every single other indivisible object.

I was thinking about your post and I had a question. Why do you think in terms of syntactically infinite, when presented with finite indivisible objects? As long as there are finite parts, there will be finite connections

For thought: There are more decimals than natural numbers eg there are many more numbers with decimals between 1 and 3 than the number of whole numbers ie 1.1,1.2,1.3 etc v's 2. Clearly the infinite number of decimals is larger than the infinite number of natural numbers.

The meaning of infinity, is that from which it is derived. If I presented you with two infinites, you can only tell which one is larger by the way in which the infinity is constructed.