E - PROVING GOD EXISTS - The Initials Of God Applied to the Creation Of Things.

[Adrian_ada]

E - PROVING GOD EXISTS - The Initials Of God’s Names Applied to the Creation Of Things and the Means Of Production, and the Creation Of Words.


The existence of God is proven in these posts.
A - PROVING GOD EXISTS - The True Nature Of Political Reality
B - PROVING GOD EXISTS - Things And Names
C - PROVING GOD EXISTS - The Power Of God
D - PROVING GOD EXISTS - Sport Is Invented
E - PROVING GOD EXISTS - The Initials Of God’s Names Applied to the Creation Of Things and the Means Of Production, and the Creation Of Words.
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E - PROVING GOD EXISTS - The Initials Of God’s names applied to the Creation Of Things and the Means Of Production, and the Creation Of Words.


IDEAS REVEALING THE TRUE NATURE OF GOD AND POLITIAL REALITY ARE ILLUSTRATED IN THE BIBLE
Revelations of the existence of God and the true nature of political reality are expressed by God in the Bible - God exists - God’s power exists - there is only one God - God is a living God, a God who has come to live in the world to share his power with human beings - God has shared his power with human beings, with the state and capitalism - God is a Royalist - God is a capitalist who invented all things on this earth, who invented the means of production


God exists and God’s power exists.
Mark 12 : 24
‘You do not know the scriptures, nor the power of God.’


There is only one God.
Mark 12:32
‘There is one God, and there is none other but he.’
John 10: 30
‘I and the father are one.’


God is a living God, a God who has come to live in the world.
Matthew 16: 16
‘And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’


God is a royalist.
John 18: 37
‘Yes I am a King.’


God is a capitalist, the power and intelligence behind the means of production.
Genesis 1: ! - 2 : 3 God created things and names
John 1 : 1-3 God invented things and names, God invented all words.


God has shared his power with the state and capitalism.
John 1 : 12
‘But as many as received them, to them he gave power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe in his name.’
- God has given his power to his chosen friends, has shared his power with the state and capitalism.


THE SAME IDEA - GENESIS AND JOHN 1: 1-3
The Book Of Genesis and John 1: 1-3 refer to the same idea, the invention of all things on this earth by God, and the creation, invention by God of all words for all such things invented by God.


Therefore it was God who invented words and language. And if you think about it, you realise that that must be so. For if you think about it, as God existed before human beings existed, then God must have known language before human beings. As God created the world and the things of the world, as is stated in the Book Of Genesis, then God must have known language when he created the world and the things of the world, that is before he created human beings, to enable him to give names to the things he created. If God didn’t know language and create language before he created human beings, God wouldn’t be able to talk himself, and wouldn’t understand human languages.


The Book of Genesis explicitly states that it was God who created words, “God called the light day.” God created the light and invented the word light. And God also invented the word ‘day’ as a word that defines. conceptualises the ‘light’, as during the daytime there is ‘light.’


As the Book of Genesis makes clear, states explicitly, that it was God who invented words, the question therefore is, how do human beings know such words. And obviously the only explanation to that question is that human beings could only know such words by means of inspiration from God, through inspiration from God.


And the idea of ‘inspiration’ is conveyed to us in John 1: 3 by the word ‘through’, as the word ‘through’ means ‘by means of’. In other words, human beings only got to know the ideas for the invention of products, and the names of such products invented, ‘by means of’ inspiration from God, ‘through’ inspiration from God.


The same idea, that God invented things and the names for things, is revealed in the Book of Genesis and repeated in John 1: 1-3. This also illustrates that the same mind, the mind of God, inspired the writings of the Old Testament and the New Testament. This is revealed in John 1: 2.
‘The same was in the beginning with God.’


In other words, God is saying in John 1: 1-3, he is making the same point that he made in the Book of Genesis, that it was himself God who invented all things and who created the words for all the things he invented.


And God by revealing this at the start of the Book Of Genesis, and again at the start of the Gospel of John, obviously wants us to make us think about this, that it is true, by giving the idea importance by stating it at the start of these gospels.


THINGS AND NAMES
The Book Of Genesis makes it clear that God invented things and the names for things. The Book Of Genesis says God created the world, and the things of the world, such as the light, the darkness, the seas, the rivers, the mountains etc, and it was God who gave these things names. It was God who called the light, who named the light, day, it was God who called the darkness, who named the darkness, night.

WORDS AND THINGS
This idea is repeated in the New Testament in John 1: 1-3.
1 In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.

This illustrates that the Old and New Testaments were inspired by the same mind, by the mind of the one and only God.

The Bible makes clear that God invented the means of production.

God invented all things on this earth, such as products, the means of production. God is the power and intelligence behind the means of production, and the words, the names for products that God invented were with God before they were with human beings. Therefore the ideas for the invention of products, and the names for products, were with God before they were with human beings, and human beings could only have got the ideas for the invention of products, and the names for such products invented, through inspiration from God.

And the word 'means' is an anagram of the word 'names'. We have the 'means' of production and the 'names' of products.

MEANS AND NAMES
The words 'means' is an anagram of the word 'names;. We have the 'means' of production and the 'names' of products. If you could invent and produce a product, could you give the product a name. I don't think you could. The truth is that human beings don't invent products and name products, but God does. The ideas for the invention and production of products and the names of such products are with God before they are with human beings. Human beings get the ideas for the invention and production of products and the names of products by means of inspiration from God. God is a capitalist-royalist, the power and intelligence behind the means of production.

THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION ARE INVENTED BY GOD
If you go into a supermarket or a computer store for instance nowadays, you surely recognise that the products on display are atomically produced with God's intelligence. Products can be simply atomically produced out of God's mind and atomically duplicated.

The point about knowing God as a friend is this. An individual can derive a sense of satisfaction, a sense of achievement, from producing, building, manufacturing something, a product for instance, himself. But after doing this a few times, after deriving such a sense of satisfaction, such a sense of achievement a few times, as such a person knows God as a friend, then there is no point in continuing doing that when there is an easier way, when God can simply do it for you with his mind. Capitalism, the capitalist producers of the means of production, know God as a friend, and nowadays products are atomically produced with God's intelligence.

THE INITIALS OF GOD’S NAMES ARE AK, KR, DOR, JOR.
We can examine the initials of God's names to prove that God is the power and intelligence behind the means of production. God's initials are AK, KR, DOR, JOR.


AK - WORDS CONTAINING THE INITIALS 'AK'
Marie Antoinette said "Let them eat cake."

Interpretation
Socialists can eat cake but they will never know how to produce cake, they will never have control of the means of production. True. Socialism has never had control of the means of production. All so called socialist regimes were capitalist in disguise.

God's initials are "AK". We have words such as cake, bake, sake, make, take, Quakers.

Make is the word. Who knows how to invent things, to make things. God does. God invented the means of production. It is God who knows how to make things, how to invent things, how to produce things, it is God who is the power and intelligence behind the means of production.

The Bible makes clear that God invented the means of production.
John 1:1-3
1 In the beginning was the Word: and the Word was with God: and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made.

Quakers - AK, obviously capitalists, invented chocolate - Kit Kat - AK.

Karl Marx - AK, obviously a capitalist philosopher, Kapital - AK.

Mermaid, the symbol of God's power, atomic power, makes the politics of deceit possible. Mermaid - marxism an ideological deceit, a philosophy for capitalism.

Marie Antoinette knew God existed, knew God, knew who God was, and had God's power. The French revolution obviously a Royal conspiracy. Proved.

The Russian revolution obviously a Royal conspiracy. The Soviet government were White Russians and the Russian government are still White Russians. Proved.

Kant (Philosopher)
Steak
(God's capitalism - the means of production)

Breakfast
(God's capitalism - the means of production)

Bake
(God's capitalism - the means of production)

Make
(Make is the word. God invented the means of production)

Quakers
(Obviously God's capitalism - Quakers are the producers of chocolate)

Sake
Wake
Take

The initials of God are also KR, DOR, JOR and I can reveal more examples of such initials applied to he means of production and to things on earth iinvented by God.


KR - WORDS CONTAINING THE INITIALS 'KR'
Krishna
(a manifestation of the one and only God)

Krona
(the Danish currency)

Kremlin
(The Russian parliament, The Soviet government were White Russians and the Russian government are still White Russians. God was always a friend of the Royalty. God gave the White Russians the power and intelligence to perform the ballet and once he had shared his power with them he didn't want to destroy that tradition. Marxism was an ideological deceit, an anti-socialist philosophy and strategy)

Mark
(the gospel of Saint Mark - the word of God)

Noah's Ark
(God created all animals)

York
(a city, God planned and designed the building of all cities in the world)

Pork
(God's capitalism - the means of production)

Fork
(God's capitalism - the means of production)

Stork
(God's capitalism - the means of production)

shark
(a sea animal, God created the seas and all the creatures in the seas)

bark
(a dog barks, dog is an anagram of the word God, God created all animals)

dark
(God created the world, the light and the darkness, the day and the night, as the Bible says)

Sark
(an island, God created and invented all the geography of the word)
lark (a bird, God created all birds)

park
(God created and invented all the geography of the word)

Kirkegærd
(A Danish philosopher inspired by God)

Kropotkin
(A phoney anarchist - all phoney anarchist, phoney socialist philosophy was inspired by God)


DOR - WORDS CONTAINING THE INITIATLS 'DOR'
(d=p=b - when God invented the alphabet he invented it so that d=p=b)
Prophet
(a chosen person of God)

Lord
(a title applied to God)

Prodigy
(a chosen person of God)

Word
(God invented all words)

Corpus Christi
(A Christian feast day)

Christian Brothers
(Christians)

means of production
(God is a capitalist-royalist, the power and intelligence behind the means of production)

production
(God's capitalism - the name of God applied to the means of production)

product
(God's capitalism - the name of God applied to the means of production)

producer
(God's capitalism - the name of God applied to the production of music, movies, television etc)

broccoli
(a product of God's capitalism, the means of production)

rod
(a product of God's capitalism, the means of production, and a hobby invented by God, God created all creature in the seas)

Rodney
(a person's name, God invented the names of all people)

deodorant
(a product of God's capitalism, the means of production)

Jordan board games
(Producers of God's capitalism, the means of production)

record
(God's capitalism, the means of production, God invented all music)

record player
(God's capitalism, the means of production, God invented all music)

recorder
(God's capitalism, the means of production, God invented all music and all musical instruments)

chord
(God invented all music)

corduroys
(a product of God's capitalism, the means of production)

Ambassador
(God is a statist, a capitalist-royalist-statist)

Prophets
(chosen people of God)

Pork
(a product of God's capitalism, the means of production)

Ford
(God's capitalism, the means of production, capitalist production of cars)

Sport
(all sport was invented by God)

Port
(God planned and designed all the geography of the world)

camcorder
(a product of God's capitalism, the means of production)

Borg
(a sport star)


JOR - WORD CONTAINING THE INITIATLS 'JOR'
Major
(God is a capitalist-royalist-statist-militarist-paramilitarist)

Jordan
(the country Jordan, God invented all the geography of the world)

Jordan board games
(God's capitalism, the means of production)

River Jordan
(the river Jordan, God invented all the geography of the world.


THE INSPIRATION OF GOD
As it is proven that God exists, it is revealed that God invented the means of production. God is the power and intelligence behind the means of production. It is proven that human beings don’t invent things, don’t invent products, but that God does. It is proven that the ideas for the invention of products, and the names of such products, are with God before they are with human beings, and that therefore human beings can only know the ideas for the invention of products and the names of such product by means of inspiration from God.


And in relation to performing arts such as ballet, gymnastics, acting, music for example, it is shown, illustrated, proved that you cannot perform these performing arts without the power and intelligence of God.


Therefore, it is revealed that human beings can’t really do anything without having the power and intelligence of God, and without God inspiring them.

[Zetetic11235]

That isn't a proof. In fact, all it is is a series of patterns you have picked out. This is one of the worst attempts at a god proof I have ever seen. Have you looked at the other ones on this forum? Have you even looked a thomas aquinas' proof of god or Duns Socuts'?
"Karl Marx - AK, obviously a capitalist philosopher, Kapital - AK"
What?! Do you even know who Karl Marx is?

You can't apply the latin alphabet to god, you do realize that the old testament was written in hebrew and the new in greek(at least the oldest copies we can find were written in greek)? You can't compare krishna with some set of english letters because our translation of it has certain subjectively chosen letters which sound similar to the indian word.

[Aedes]

This certainly proves the power of the human mind to make all kinds of associations.

Can you use the same technique to prove that Darth Vader exists?

[iconoclast]

Adrian_ada,

Step outside this basis of analysis and look at things from an evolutionary perspective. Religion is just a story man told himself, over thousands of years, to make some sense of his existence in the world.

A religion is a lingua franca of a social group - and every group has them, myths and legends that embody folksy wisdoms and common references, encouraging individuals within the group to behave in certain ways - and not others - so that everyone knows what eachother will do.

You must not confuse this undoubted value with truth - do not look for literal truth where there was only ever meant to be metaphorical meaning. We all hope that God exists, but don't force yourself to believe it. This is where the confusion begins and ends - what you cannot know cannot be true. Have hope but let go of faith, for that way madness lies.

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[Aedes]

Iconoclast, please take a different tone than this, calling someone mentally ill is unacceptable whether or not you think it true.

[Khethil]

Yea

... I wasn't going to say anything but... while I admire the faith of the faithful, it appears someone's gone to a lot of trouble drawing up some really absurd associations to try and shore-up support.

My favorite is: "when God invented the alphabet he invented it so that d=p=b". Precious!

Amazing: No redeeming characteristics whatsoever. Given that much typing, I'd think there'd be something substantive.

[Holiday20310401]

Lets not insult adrian here. Yes, according to my brother's psychologist believing in God the heaven and hell stuff is actually a disorder. But man, a lot of work was put into this and the connections that were made are useful themselves.

But I think there is room for a lot of thought here. Lol, A LOT!

To quote, human beings can't do anything without the virtues of the power of God. What kind of God would make us dependent on itself. If God were to create a separate race, namely us, then the purpose is for it to be completely separate from God.

I mean this sounds like giving in to the persuasion of a christian fundamentalist group trying to create a totalitarian regime or something. But christianity can never work until people can seek truth in it.

Why would God want truth to be idle, that it should be based on virtue of an idol, being itself. God is not a being, it cannot be selfish.

How about writing a big long thread on why we would live better without God even if you don't first believe it.

Also, why is it that ministers never view the philosophy forum? Because it would burst their bubble!
Though I do know a pastor that didn't believe in the christian god or any god evoked through religion.

[iconoclast]

Aedes,

I accept my tone lacks gentleness or tact - but my heart is in the right place. I've ammended the post to better reflect my intent, which is to express genuine concern, not to call names. This is the post of someone who is deeply confused, and unless philosophy is to be mere intellectual masturbation I think it behooves us to offer help and advice to those who so obviously need it. Please pardon me if I've overstepped the bounds.

iconoclast.

[Didymos Thomas]

Yes, according to my brother's psychologist believing in God the heaven and hell stuff is actually a disorder.

Either you oversimplified the psychologist's point, or the psychologists is a quack.

Also, why is it that ministers never view the philosophy forum? Because it would burst their bubble!
Though I do know a pastor that didn't believe in the christian god or any god evoked through religion.

Setting aside the astonishing, and depressing, number of ministers who have not studied any philosophy, or even read their Bible through, you might be surprised at how many clerics do study philosophy. For many, the study is part of their training.

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

my heart is in the right place

I know, but all we can tell is what you've written.

I think it behooves us to offer help and advice to those who so obviously need it.

This isn't a clinical environment, and what I'd suggest is to either privately approach someone if you think they need help or just stay out of it. Some people publicly ask for help. Some don't. Unless someone seeks help in public, then it would be better to treat the discussion as an exchange of ideas and nothing more.

There are plenty of people I've run across here and on other forums who struck me as having some sort of personal or psychiatric problem, but the WORST possible way to handle this is to make a public discussion out of it. Even the most sensitive clinical conversation must be handled privately, and nothing is more humiliating for people than for their mental health to be made a topic of public discussion.

Again, without revealing anything about what I think about this member, I do believe you mean well, but I hope you understand my point of view here.

Thanks,
Paul