is make up the burka of western society?

[jojo]

is make up the burka of western society?

or on a wider note...

is creating an identity through consumption merely masking that which is most holy?

[Justin]

What does Make-up have to do with human relations or philosophy for that matter?

[jojo]

do you believe that Muslim women covering their faces with burkas and western women covering their faces with make up, isnt a symptom of a wider philosphical and ideological problem on our planet.

and furthermore,

of course this is philosophical debate, i am just rooting it to something a little more tangible and trying to give it some topicality.

if you cant see that i am talking philosophy then....

[Justin]

I'm not sure about the Muslim women and Burkas. I thought it was more of some sort of rule for Muslim women practicing in the Muslim religion and imposed upon them by their religion or the Muslim men. However of course, my interest in studying why Muslim women wear Burkas is slim to none.

As far as make-up on western women, that is something western women have chosen to do long ago to cover blemishes and pretty up their faces. Is it a, "symptom of a wider philosphical and ideological problem on our planet"... Well, there are just too many other problems that plague our planet to worry about Burkas and the make-up women wear. So, I don't see the philosophical debate over this.

Just my opinion... If anyone else can offer an answer to this or wishes to debate on this subject, feel free.

[jojo]

if we have a symptom on our planet of women covering their faces, i think the cause merits a little discussion.

also its a fine line between freedom to choose and social pressure don't you think?


i certainly believe its more important than some of your other threads, such as UFO over Finland, or Happy valentines day, i would love to know the contribution they are making to the forum, or even if the existence of those threads is being questioned?


jojo

[Aristoddler]

I would never beat my wife for not wearing her makeup, so I'm afraid I don't see the overall picture you're trying to demonstrate.

[Justin]

You may be right, maybe this calls for discussion. However, I think the focus on symptoms rather than causes is a philosophical and ideological problem on our planet.

If it's important to you to discuss this topic the by all means, you are encouraged to do so. You may find someone else who wishes to discuss it also. I would encourage a focus point on the discussion though. Are we talking freedoms or social pressures? Anyway, let's see how the discussion turns.

[Aristoddler]

Originally Posted by jojo

if we have a symptom on our planet of women covering their faces, i think the cause merits a little discussion.

also its a fine line between freedom to choose and social pressure don't you think?


i certainly believe its more important than some of your other threads, such as UFO over Finland, or Happy valentines day, i would love to know the contribution they are making to the forum, or even if the existence of those threads is being questioned?


jojo

Women in Western Culture wear makeup to enhance their features, not cover them up because they're a lesser person for being a woman.
They have the freedom to choose, and social pressure only affects those who let it affect them.
This is no more or less important than any other thread in this board...I would like to know your reasoning for these threads you mentioned, being less important though.

[jojo]

Originally Posted by Aristoddler

Women in Western Culture wear makeup to enhance their features, not cover them up because they're a lesser person for being a woman.
They have the freedom to choose, and social pressure only affects those who let it affect them.
This is no more or less important than any other thread in this board...I would like to know your reasoning for these threads you mentioned, being less important though.

are you sure that women in the west wear make up "to enhance their features" as opposed to "cover them up because of a fear of being a lesser person"


i think you are totally wrong on this point

social pressures only affect those that choose to be affected, hmm yes, some ppl decide to be victims, however that makes them victims none the less.

i plucked a couple at random, and only because the validity of my own was being questioned,

and all i asked specifically was

are these other threads having there right to exist questioned, i would still like an answer to that question actually, and if they weren't questioned, why not,

or rather why was mine?

i beleive the threads were, er....

ufo's in iceland

and something wishing someone a happy valentines

ur...hmp[h....

[boagie]

Originally Posted by jojo

is make up the burka of western society?

or on a wider note...

is creating an identity through consumption merely masking that which is holy.quote]

jojo,

Actually Jojo, I do not know what all the noise is about,this sounds like a perfectly good topic,both the burka and makeup are means of communicating something, perhaps the same thing but in opposition to each others expression.

I am unsure of what you mean by creating an identity through consumption well masking that which is holy,please expand if you can on this.