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Old 11-13-2008, 09:30 PM
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Re: RELIGULOUS--Bill Maher

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Ok. Then I take it you are retracting your ealier statements such as:

"you are probably religious (I'm guessing Christian), and if that is true then there is no reason to argue with you because to change your mind would take drastic measures, something akin to years and years of rehab."

and

"But things are changing friend, and people are starting to get help, and I’ve even met many recovering Catholics and Christians. There is hope."

Yes?

Fair enough.

Ok. Then I have disproven your assertion that Christianity is a monolithic entity.

This definition is the one that we have been using in our arguments. Or, more precisely, the one that I have been using.

You would be correct if you believe this.

You would also be correct if you believe this.

Yes.

It was you who asked: "Did they compose the Christian religion 5,000 years ago?"

In common jargon, the term "The Christian relgion" as you used it here refers to Christianity including all of it's various subsets.

You are talking about two different uses of the term "The Christian Religion". When I initially replied to your sequentially previous comment (eg. the above text by me that you quoted) you were using the term, not as a classification of the religion (eg. "Christianity" as opposed to Islam or Shintoism); you were using it as a statement defining ALL people who identify as "Christian" as having the same belief system:

"The point he's making, is the CENTRAL idea to the christian religion in itself is a completely irrational concept. "

This above statement from you was in response to my comment that the movie was silly because it only focused on one aspect of Christianity, namely fundamentalism.

When you used the term "The Christian Religion" in that connotation, you were generalizing all of the sub-sets of Christianity into one set: fundamentalism.

However, when you used the phrase: "The Christian Religion" in this statement:

"Did they compose the Christian religion 5,000 years ago?"

You were not making a generalization (at least as far as I can tell), but merely using the term "Christian Religion" to classify the diverse system of belief as opposed to other systems of belief eg. Islam, Rastafarianism, Cao Dei, etc.

Two different uses of the phrase "the Christian Religion" each with different connotations in the context of the discussion.

See?

I'm finished with this discussion, but I would like to close by thanking you OctoberMist. You have definitely reaffirmed my preconceptions and reinforced my original hypothesis. You've done well friend. I'll stay in the philosophy of mind section from now on.
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Re: RELIGULOUS--Bill Maher

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If you're frustated that I have caught you in your errors, perhaps making better arguments would be in order.
Yes you did OctoberMist, you caught me red handed And I am soooo upset!!!

I will go explore the art of argument, and hopefully one day I can attain the advanced level of argumentation that you so possess.

Bye bye
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Re: RELIGULOUS--Bill Maher

Another one bites the dust.
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