How can God not exist

[Theaetetus]

Originally Posted by No0ne

Egg's turn into chicken's, but the first chicken didnt come from an egg, because at one point a chicken wasnt a chicken and didnt lay egg's

Your right that the chicken wasn't a chicken but it is highly probably that it still laid eggs. That is unless proto-chickens spontaneously came into being.

[Theaetetus]

Originally Posted by No0ne

"Simple atoms such as hydrogen and helium evolve into more complex atoms until you end up with uranium."

Program's dont program them self... Someone must program the program to program it's self...

That is assuming that something needed to be programmed.

[de_budding]

Originally Posted by OntheWindowStand

something to remember is that change only occurs to a species when it changes where it lives that is because the sub species that is the best suited thus survives and it appears as though something changed in reality when put back in the same environment the sub species that flourished before will continue its past prosperity and another "change will occur" this is just the survival of the fittest at work no specie changes occur though the basis of what makes it certain animal hasn't shown to ever change

1: that post has no punctuation; it is hard to read. Can you sort it out?
2: I asked you specifically... 'Don't let this distract' and yet you did!
3: That has nothing to do with this post, which contains the rebuttals I wanted discussing.
4: You simply restated that species can change! I ask[ed] you... how many changes would it take to qualify for new species, addressing what I saw as a subjective nonsense that you put forward.

Is my communication really that bad, that it has been two days now and I can't get you to address some simple queries? Again I refer you to this post, re-read it and either respond constructively or not at all. If you don’t understand it- apologies- let me know where my communication fails me and I'll try to reiterate. If not, and your just being a Christian, then please, just admit it and don't babble on in response to what was, an arbitrary example (Darwin's theory.) I explained that it was an example and that any good theory could replace it. These posts take time and I put a lot of effort into what I write to you. I try to respond accurately and in good form- so you can understand... futile is it? Or denial on your behalf?

Either way I don't care enough to continue if you can not engage me seriously. I forgot how idiotic it is to engage Christians in a philosophical discussion! If I don't get a sensible response to- again- this post, then I'll assume it is because you can't understand or don't want to deal with it. Like I said, I'm happy to reiterate and accept that your not interested or that my communication is bad... but I think this is not the case.

Dan.

[Zetetic11235]

Im not a big fan of the high i.q. societies, however, this may be of interest when considering the chicken or the egg, I found it at least entertaining: The Chicken or the Egg?

[de_budding]

Cheers Zetetic,
That was an interesting read, I had never considered some of the evolutionary problems mentioned before. But a quick glance at some of the simple explanations given made for some fun speculation.

Dan.

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by OntheWindowStand

Time cannot have always existed. Without a beginning time is a line stretching both forward and backward for eternity. In this model it is impossible to ever move forward or back in time because the start cant be defined without a start how can it exist? unless it created in which case the creator would be god.

Who created god? If god is eternal, his beginning cannot be defined and thus how can he exist?

[No0ne]

Originally Posted by Theaetetus

That is assuming that something needed to be programmed.

I wasnt assuming

Hydrogen dosnt tell it's self how to act, it just act's how it act's, so somthing had to tell the first hydrogen atom how to act, or it wouldnt act how it act's, or even function how it funtion's presently.

But, yea I see what you mean

[Holiday20310401]

Well the forces of nature tell the hydrogen how to act, giving it properties, etc.

[OntheWindowStand]

how did the forces of nature start?

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by OntheWindowStand

how did the forces of nature start?

How did God start?