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| U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games Very interesting story about how the U.S. Army blatantly ignores international law and targets minors under 17 for recruitment with the video game America's Army. Quote:
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games Well said VideCorSpoon! I give it a seven for eloquence, an eight for assertiveness and a nine for comparrissons. I especially liked the little condescending nod to the media who seem to ignore the thought that maybe they have something to do with the corruption of young minds and the thoughtfull reminder of the situation in Congo, which is becoming more and more common practice around the world every day, as if to point the American military in the 'right' direction I think earned a bonus point, resulting in a 9 overall. ![]()
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games The problem though that makes America's Army special is the fact that the web site looks like (or may even be) a recruitment page for the American military unlike games like Call of Duty. The military also keeps statistics from American Army which the don't with other similar games. Other than that I agree that children are desensitized to violence and there is far worse than American Army in that respect. But games like Grand Theft Auto, Silent Hill, and Call of Duty are not trying to turn children into soldiers. |
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games Seeing as it is a fact that people can be influenced by said methods I am wondering what one can do about the situation. Only 'evil' organisations would tread so low as to use it, so by not using it, would not the benefits and therefore the advantages go to the 'evil' groups? Then again, is it not so that such groups can only form by use of leverage such as values, which would have to be instated by other groups and that, in fact such values form an 'ideal image' which leads to children wanting to act in such 'evil ways' as depicted in their games? So, would not the usage of such an 'ideal image' be at fault, rather than the game? And if so, would not the formation of such 'ideal images' be the thing to work against, instead of the games themselves? -A few thoughts for merryment and diversion....
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games Theaetetus, That’s a really good point. You are absolutely right in the way America’s army and the u.s. army websites set themselves up as nearly identical (i.e. “hero” examples.” To tell the truth, I think the army would have gone with the call of duty website format if they had the budget to do it. So there’s no doubt they are trying to blend the two sites together. But I think all three websites do that though. Each has a individual figure in some form looking or acting heroic. But the military cannot be blamed for keeping statistics. When I went on call of duty’s website, I had to put in my date of birth information. All games nowadays have some gimmick or prompt in order to gather some form of information. The military is not alone in that collection. ![]() I also agree about desensitization, etc. But it seems like American army is the lesser of this evil. The army website and Americas army website have heroic examples, career opportunity listings, etc. They are a little more constructive. As to grand theft auto, silent hill, and call of duty not trying to turn children into soldiers, I still think Americas army is the lesser of the four evils. Not to say that the army is wholesome, but it may be better than catering to a kids car stealing, zombie slaying, Nazi-killing aspirations. Arjen, Propaganda is everywhere, we just get desensitized to it, like little Timmy. That’s why I drink coke! AHHH…Coke. Nothing hits the spot like a refreshing, ice-cold, patented Coca Cola Classic ™ from your local retailer. It’s diabeti-rific!!! Fighting against imagery instead of the games is a good point. In my opinion, I think that gory imagery is beneficial to suitably aged kids. People to a point need to be desensitized in order to fully understand the consequences of malicious actions. I had an interesting conversation a while back about how people in the US are so removed from death. Think about it, the closest people get to death in western countries is when they go to a funeral. They encounter an example of death, but in a done up way. The deceased have makeup, preservation, etc. that mask the appearance of death in favor of a sleeping person. But elsewhere in places like India and Africa, death is an up close matter where people literally breath it in. The person I was talking with made a good point, which was that since people are so removed from death that extreme views of violence emerge, like extremely violent gun crimes (which is arguably removed as well) and the exact opposite, people that deny the violence completely (which is arguably removed). Last edited by Justin; 07-31-2008 at 12:34 AM. Reason: Resized Images |
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games Being desensitized from the true (negative) sensations of violence is the problem. Perhaps if video games could add moral values then it would seem a little more real. When playing video games like halo or call of duty it is just straight out fighting. Any objectives are given and you just follow them. Being a higher rank in the game only means power ups, not more tasks required. They don't talk about why there is a war in the first place in the game. Its thoughtless combat. But still the games are fun. Sorry if you don't agree with me, I mean its a game! I don't feel like killing somebody after playing. I think the problem is that the game isn't real enough. So the concept of killing somebody in the game is irrelevant to the player. Don't take away the blood and gore, the deviations from reality. That only gives kids wrong assumptions about what war is really like, and I suppose could lead to problems. |
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games Any war game promotes misconceptions about war. That's why it's a game and not war. Even military training, the elaborate laser tag games, give those boys misconceptions about war. Traditional military training is all about desensitization. That's the point. |
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games I hope there hasn't been a misunderstanding but I'm a guy! So I am included with boys who like video games. .... Just in case you thought otherwise.![]()
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| Re: U.S. Military Recruits Children with Video Games I meant 'those boys' as in 'those soldiers'. |
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