The Mind Is A Secondary Organ

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by Dustin

Aren't the characteristics of autism and mercury poisoning nearly identical?

Not even remotely. Jeez, I mean look up acrodynia, which is one of the classic mercury toxicity syndromes.

Plus, remember that autism is a group of several diseases (the autistic spectrum disorders) that includes autism, Asperger syndrome, savants, and pervasive developmental delay. And to be sure, NONE of them resembles any of the described mercury toxicity syndromes.

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by Aedes

Not even remotely. Jeez, I mean look up acrodynia, which is one of the classic mercury toxicity syndromes.

Plus, remember that autism is a group of several diseases (the autistic spectrum disorders) that includes autism, Asperger syndrome, savants, and pervasive developmental delay. And to be sure, NONE of them resembles any of the described mercury toxicity syndromes.

So, is the chart below incorrect?


© Copyright 2001 - 2005 Vaccine Awareness of North Florida, Inc.

[Aedes]

Yes. Patently so. In fact both columns are grossly incorrect. Head to your local medical school's library, pick up a Toxicology textbook and open to the mercury poisoning chapter, and pick up a Pediatric Development textbook and open to the autistic spectrum disorders chapter. They are nothing alike.

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by Aedes

Yes. Patently so. In fact both columns are grossly incorrect. Head to your local medical school's library, pick up a Toxicology textbook and open to the mercury poisoning chapter, and pick up a Pediatric Development textbook and open to the autistic spectrum disorders chapter. They are nothing alike.

Thanks for the info. Since this was a bit off-topic, I started a new thread, but somehow it mysteriously disappeared.

[Doobah47]

Would it be possible that the nucleus of an atom has a perceptive decision-making imagination similar to our imaginative minds. If so, the brain as a simple organ would contain atoms which have an imaginative quality, therefore the brain would be as imaginative and spiritually inspired as the mind.

[Rasputini]

It's possible, but how would you ever show that? There are microscopes powerful enough to see atoms, and manipulate them to a small degree (at least i saw so on discover channel once :P ), so we know they exist, assuming Descarte was wrong in his dualist concept. heheh But how could we possibly show, or demonstrate that an atom has any kind of consciousness. And if it did, wouldnt that then pose an identity problem? Are we actually conscious or is it merely the atoms....

[Doobah47]

I heard a theory, perhaps in a dream, that water has a memory of some description, so it takes on the properties of particles mixed with it into a solution, yet when the water is dilluted significantly or the particles removed, the water has a memory of the the composition of the particles - it's a theory that tried to prove that homeopathy worked I think. Anyway, my point is that perhaps the H2O nuclei remember the communications of the nuclei of the foreign particles, thus although protons and neutrons aren't exchanged, the water retains or remebers properties of the foreign particles.

I think the theory that water could have a memory was discredited by the science community (at least it says so on Wikipedia), so perhaps this idea is as wacky as it sounds...

[Rasputini]

MMMMM I'm kinda lost in there. Water is a molecule, so its made up of more than 1 atom, and doesnt have a singular nucleus, and second what kind of particles are you taking about? Cause if you add salt to water, NaCl + H2O, the water molecules will disassociate the salt into Na and Cl.... Excuse me if im getting anything wrong in this, i only have one first year biology course behind me, and its been a while. If you can somehow remove the Na and CL by removing them from the water molecules, the water will go back to its original state through hydrogen bonds. Though it might look like the water "remembers" itself, its actually only acting under an electrical charge...

[Doobah47]

No, what I'm saying is that there's more to a nucleus than we know, so it is possible that these nuclei form somewhat emotional bonds with other nuclei which they are then separated from somehow, yet they have some kind of memory of these other nuclei. So it could be said that the glass of water remembers the twig that was inserted and then removed due to communication between nuclei.

[Phaedrus]

This is an excerpt from an article that ran in the scientific american. It is from an interview with Thomas Edison. I took it from a book called "the consciousness of the atom" released by Alice Bailey. It addresses what Doobah47 is questioning.
He states the following:

1 Life, like matter is indestructible
2 Our bodies are composed of Myriads of infinitesimal entities, each in itself a unit of life; just as an atom is composed of myriads of electrons.
3 The Human being acts as an assemblage rather than a unit; the body and mind express the vote or voice of the life entities.
4 The life entities build according to a plan. If a part of the life organism be mutilated, they rebuild exactly as before
5 Science admits the difficulty of drawing the line between the inanimate and the animate; perhaps the life entities extend their activities into crystals and chemicals…
6 The life entities live forever; so that to this extent at least the eternal life which many of us hope for is a reality.

Consciousness in some form exists on every level. Crystals grow and there is order to the natural world down to the infinitesimal. The broadest definition of consciousness is "response to contact" which the water and the Na and Cl all exhibit. They respond to eachother in the same way every time and if the compounds which have a greater afinity are put into solution the bonds of the Hydrogen and Oxygen are broken. When the interlopers are removed then the original bonds can be remade without interference.

One of the posters really took issue with the statement I made about the mind creating the brain and it is over simplified at that level but consciousness does create the organism. If you believe that life starts at conception then the consciouness of the new baby is creating its own form, including its brain. If you believe that life starts at birth than it is the consciousness of the mother that is creating the vehicle for the baby's soul (conciousness) to enhabit. Mind (to get back to the thread proper) is the first manifestation of consciousness, and in the human being it is the bridging of the lower concrete mind of the empiricist with the abstract mind of the visionary which is the goal of meditiation (mediation). That is when you have an Einstein. He claimed that he did not come by his understanding of the universe through his ability to reason.