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Metaphysics The ultimate nature of existence. Relationships between mind and matter, substance and attribute, fact and value. Why are we here? Is there a God? What is substance? Real or not?

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A boundary to nothingness

You know how we have electrons that are filled with nothing. So we have a nothingness, and then a somethingness. ( I need to expand my vocab.)


What if we were programmed to sequentiate somethings and nothings in the reality we perceive. We have a nothingness, 'infinitisity', lol.

And perception is programmed with a sequence to provide us with what spatial coordinates have something and what has nothing; from nothing to begin with. That would mean that the source of something must be what was programmed.

The sequence would not be irrational, but actually connoting or rather literally denoting to the source being a single point, nothing at all. (if you believe the big bang theory, perhaps this is an example). So the sequence may be only one piece of information that derives the whole outcome.


What makes the electron an electron? Is it the emptiness in side, the nothingness? Or is it the shell, the somethingness? Is the shell 2D? Then what is inside the shell, more emptiness?

It makes me feel that the actuality of our environment is still in fact nothing. We are simply a sequence in which to attain a something that gives "potential", and reality comes by that. And the potential is cause for consciousness, maybe...

I really don't have an understanding of particles so perhaps this information is taught in university or something.
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Re: A boundary to nothingness

You prove this;
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You know how we have electrons that are filled with nothing.
You speak of an 'electron' as if it were an empty cup. It is nothing of the kind.
Is it not 'wise' to learn at least the very basics of something before presenting it as a topic of discussion? I see a better use of your obviously functional mind if you had some 'firm foundation' upon which to 'build/ponder'.
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Yeah, thanks. I figured as much. Alright then, what form do electrons take? If not the highschool version anyways.
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Yeah, thanks. I figured as much. Alright then, what form do electrons take? If not the highschool version anyways.
An electron has no form; it is 'information', 'possibilities', 'probabilities'.
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. . . What makes the electron an electron? Is it the emptiness in side, the nothingness? Or is it the shell, the somethingness? Is the shell 2D? Then what is inside the shell, more emptiness?. . . .


Electrons are a tension in space: no particle there. Electrons do not orbit the nucleus. The dimensions are infinite, which puts all the mass in the surface. This is elementary science--useless like the syllogisms, which we must know anyway.
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I feel like I've been thrown in mud through the crap taught in school sometimes. I mean do they just think students are stupid or something, like we can't handle the actual way things are?
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I feel like I've been thrown in mud through the crap taught in school sometimes. I mean do they just think students are stupid or something, like we can't handle the actual way things are?
Teachers teach what they are told, what they know and have been taught. It is up to you to use the (taught) ability to read and to think to educate yourself. And that education, with its constant 'critical updates' and critical examinations, 'never' end.
We are taught much obsolete and nonsensical crap in the 'sacred halls' of academe. When my kids were in school, I was right on top of it! I was in school often and had a close relationship with the 'teachers' and material being 'taught'. Ultimately, I am/was my childrens primary teacher, and also my own!
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I feel like I've been thrown in mud through the crap taught in school sometimes. I mean do they just think students are stupid or something, like we can't handle the actual way things are?


Wasn't until I got to senior level math that the prof finally nailed the problem. Said he: Up to now you have been cheated in your math education; you should get your money back.

The world would be different if we had more like him.
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Re: A boundary to nothingness

Holiday,

As a course of self study:
Learn Calculus up to multivariable, and include linear algebra, you will mostly be set for learning mathematical physics. A good introductory text on mathematical physics will then take you to the point where you can really delve into just about any area of modern physics and fully understand the mathematics of it.

You should download the torrents Physics Complete and Mathematics Complete.
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