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Metaphysics The ultimate nature of existence. Relationships between mind and matter, substance and attribute, fact and value. Why are we here? Is there a God? What is substance? Real or not?

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Re: A new conceptual model of the universe.

In the lightbulb example, I believe we talking about discovery rather than creation.

Creation is a funny word, in a sense humans never create anything. We can't form matter out of nothing - all we can do is reorganize it in new ways that produce previously unobserved results. We are creating ideas but not matter.
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Re: A new conceptual model of the universe.

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Creation is a funny word, in a sense humans never create anything. We can't form matter out of nothing - all we can do is reorganize it in new ways that produce previously unobserved results. We are creating ideas but not matter.
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