Where Is Are Rule Book To The Universe?

[No0ne]

...Any system or game man has made intellectually, man has made that game or system with a set of rules, or a rule book, or a way to find out those rule's of the system or game, which tool's are needed to find them out in some case's.

So where is that rule book or the way to find out the rule's of are universe?

So would this mean, mathematics, thought, and science are the way's to find out the rule's of are universe?

So could it be said that mathematics, thought, and science are the inteletcual tools that are needed to create that book of rule's of are universe?

Since man has made such with intellectual intent. Would this also point out another sign of intellectual design of are univers and are selves?

But would this also give some ground's to teach some form's of intellectual design in school's?

[Holiday20310401]

It seems to me that the universe itself is acausal, so it doesn't need to exist. So to make it existent or have potential it would make sense to add a self causal relation, or a conscious being, thus us. Reality dependent on consciousness which are the tools to form reality out of the actuality of the universe.

And that actuality is governed by dimension, which in turn does not need to be governed, being the nature of dimension, underlying its very form, and outcomed forms.

[nameless]

Originally Posted by No0ne

Where Is Are Rule Book To The Universe?

We lose our innocence in accepting the 'Rule Book'.
You can only claim to have regained your 'innocence' in the transcendence of those 'Rules'.

"Nothing is true, everything is permitted," - Hassan i Sabbah... the Old Man of the Mountain

("Where is 'our' Rule Boo...")

[socrato]

Our rule book is the ten commandments!!!

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by socrato

Our rule book is the ten commandments!!!

So does that mean it's ok to torture people because it's not in the ten commandments?

[socrato]

If people don't follow the ten commandments then yeah b/c if the bible says so then it's ok. At least thats what I've been told. And this is at church so I hink I know more about it than "does that mean it's ok to torture people".
But we should love each other no torture. God never had war or torture among his people.

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by socrato

At least thats what I've been told.

Do you think there is more to this issue than what you've been told in church?

God never had war or torture among his people.

He drowned everyone on earth except for Noah's family, he burned Sodom and Gomorrah to the ground, and by kicking Adam and Eve out of the Garden he allowed humans to experience suffering.

[socrato]

But Adam and eve didn't obey God, so they sinned, and were wrong. God erased the sins from humans. Because God did it vengeance is ok.

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by socrato

Because God did it vengeance is ok.

What makes you think God did it out of vengeance? In parenthood you punish your child because you love him/her and want to teach a lesson. And torture is a method, whereas vengeance is an agenda that can employ many methods. So divine vengeance doesn't necessarily justify torture. Furthermore, you can't generalize from god's actions to say what's ok for all humans. God takes away life. Does that mean killing is ok? God created the universe. Does that mean it would be ok for us to create a different universe?

You didn't answer my first question!

[socrato]

This si complicated. I'll just ask aboutthis stuff at church. lol. Why they even critisize philosophy I don't know, because you speak like some geniuses. Bye