Where Is Are Rule Book To The Universe?

[Aedes]

Hehe, we all just like to think out loud. This forum is about testing our own views and learning from others. Whatever you end up believing, you should believe because you've thought about it, not just because you were told.

[Didymos Thomas]

I'm very suspicious of this notion that because God does something, we humans should do the same. Life and death, for example, seem better left to God - not the sort of business man should take up.

Hamlet is a great play to read when considering this sort of thing.

[Doobah47]

In some ways what God does is the presentation of original phenomenon; is there requirement for humans as individuals to develop the abilities to reason moral values for any original phenomena? Should some humans determine the values for others? The Bible says "it was good", so any follower of the Old Testament is submissive to other humans, if the Bible prohibits idolatry then how could one person submit to the moral value decided by another human? Surely this submission represents the idolization of the oppressor as the origin of the moral value...

[No0ne]

What I was pointing out is the fact that the intelligence of human's has been used to create computer system's and other form's of system's and tool's to understand how those thing's function.

And that nature to has those tool's, so I was try to suggest that nature has intelligent design to it, since human's needed intelligence to make a tool to understand the system, wouldnt nature need intelligence to have a tool or way to understand it?

So this would be some ground's to push some form's of intelligent desgin in school's..

I was not implying the implication's of a "god" in the school teaching's, just implying the implication's of natures intelligence in the tool's that are in place to understand how the natural system function's.

It's clear that the function's of nature function intelligently with one another in a duality of harmony. Hence nature has intelligently designed it's self, yet it's still hard to know what has intelligently designed nature to intelligently design it's self. (alot of people say god)

All in all there are alot of more implication's to be covered

[Zetetic11235]

Man, I just want to let you know that an apostrophy only goes after a possesive. E.g. "I was the school's agenda", but not "There are many schools of thought".

As far as the content of your post; you are personifying the whole of nature, where I think that the opposite is called for. Think of physical laws as a sort of constraint for what constitutes the set of true facts as opposed to false ones. An algorithm by which those facts which are true occur as opposed to those which are false, and which defines the possible facts. The existence of man is an fact resulting of the constriction of the possibility of facts by the algorithm by which true facts are sorted from false ones.

Thinking of the universe and thus man as a mechanism operating by certain laws is, I think, much more accurate and far less unnecissarily metaphysical than the reverse.