What is life?

[perplexity]

If they want it to be true, then I dare say that so it shall be.

My observation is then likely to be that the truth was thus created.


--- RH.

[pilgrimshost]

In other words are you saying that its 'made up'?

From a philosophical perspective it could be deemed to all be 'made up' in the sence that nothing could be certain, but what if their are certainties within the confines of the universe (as in physics and biology) which are strictly designed to be in the format that they are as long as the universe exists.

[perplexity]

Originally Posted by pilgrimshost

but what if their are certainties within the confines of the universe (as in physics and biology) which are strictly designed to be in the format that they are as long as the universe exists.

That was the original premise of what we call science, the perpetual existence of absolute certainties, the 2+2=4 version, so we have a fairly good idea of the effect of that "what if?": The result tends to be a version of reality strictly designed by the mind that perceives it. As they seek, so they shall find.

In the mean time, did you ever come across the expression "Worlds apart" to describe a human relationship?

This is perhaps the greatest paradox of life, that what is most important to us also happens to be the most uncertain.

--- RH.

[pilgrimshost]

Oh indeed, is that because we may all dream of finding our 'holy grail' which is always a distinctly individual vision thus nobody can agree on the conclusion? This is brilliant, so would that mean that certainties are actually those things which satisfy the majorities dream(if that word will suffice) for what they need to complete their reality?

[perplexity]

Originally Posted by pilgrimshost

Oh indeed, is that because we may all dream of finding our 'holy grail'...

I think of it more as having forgotten where I put the thing.

--- RH.

[pilgrimshost]

Do you mean like we already know what we want but need to 'recall' it in our memory? I think youve mentioned something like thst before when you say we wont find what we want untill we know what it is we're looking for, can you ellaberate.

[perplexity]

Originally Posted by pilgrimshost

Do you mean like we already know were what we want but need to 'recall' it in our memory?

Did you ever watch a cat, and suspect that in its own way it is actually more intelligent than you, except not to be bothered to have to prove it?

The problem is the learning process is the unlearning, the prejudice created by education, the conditioning, stuck with the systems already in use. Without all that is the prospect of natural intuition, spontaneity.

"Pattern-recognition is a throwing away of information; any device that can lose information can generalize."

(William Ross Ashby)

--- RH.

[pilgrimshost]

Like the innate behaviour of a dog that kicks its legs backward after its excreated, where did it learn that from?

[perplexity]

Originally Posted by pilgrimshost

Like the innate behaviour of a dog that kicks its legs backward after its excreated, where did it learn that from?

It was always fairly obvious to me that mammals are already born with some sort of inherent system of intelligence. The learning process would not otherwise be so quick, immediate in the case of some who get up and walk immediately after birth.

-- RH.

[pilgrimshost]

Apparently dogs do this because it comes from pre demestic times when they would kick-scratch the ground to cover over their feisces, in order to keep their environment sanitary, now thats good house keeping! But weirdly enough how does this pass on?