What is life?

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by charles m young

This is a direct attack on the effects of the Muslim religion, (and I don’t even need to decapitate anybody to get the point across) their religion has divided, blinded, zombified, and killed thousands of people.

1) It's people, not religions who harm one another
2) Would you like a list of atrocities committed by Christians?

[charles m young]

practically every religion has its downfalls, and i dont agree with christian views either. i have seen many independant fundamental baptist preachers be just as extremist as muslims and terrorists. however, the ideology is what propetuates the violent debaucheries commited by them.

[charles m young]

I agree that it seems like a lost cause. But I also believe that deep down within the hearts of the persecuted citizens of these Middle Eastern countries, they want change as well. If they see the potential power of their numbers, they will see that their potential savior is unity and individualism. True, they have deep seated beliefs that are hard to change, but if they become knowledgeable of the fact that their very belief system was forced upon them by the edge of the sword, they would probably begin to question the reliability of their religion, and when they see the benefit of unity and how much it contributes to the world as a whole, they would have to be practically retarded to reject it. Although the developing system of unity of all mankind is in total opposition of war, I am by no means ignorant of the fact that these ideas will in fact generate war. It is inevitable, but with the completion of this war, and the world finally embraces peace, tranquility, and unity, war will cease entirely. Once we have achieved world peace we can then pursue world unity. This is a metaphysical blog, and here we find ourselves discussing potentials of politics. If you wish to continue this conversation, we have a blog going in religions under the title ‘god is not a solution, but a problem’. We welcome your participation in this discussion.

[Aedes]

Originally Posted by charles m young

however, the ideology is what propetuates the violent debaucheries commited by them.

The ideology is the excuse that people use to justify their violence. Irrespective of the ideology's particulars, the common thread of violence is disaffected, disenfranchised adolescent boys who follow leaders. True among the Christian genocidaires in Rwanda, the atheistic revolutionaries in China, the whatever-the-hell-they-were Khmer Rouge, the Hindu Tamil Tigers, and many examples of Buddhist violence in southeast Asia and Sri Lanka.

[knownothing]

I agree it is the ideology and belief system that is harmful. I have recently been trying to suspend my thought process. Live life in a state of "no mind." I've found that I am more compassionate and caring in this state than usual. It is as if my morality follows me like a shadow. Also in this state of mind, from a religious stand point, it is hard to be offended because you aren't identified with any particular religion. To act moral and ethical is to act in accordance with your human nature. I don't buy into orginal sin. Everybody is born with a clean slate. It is social conditioning that makes people act unnatural and deviant.

[Doobah47]

Originally Posted by andykelly

I'd like to start a thread asking members to open metaphysic related discussions.

Metaphysics (Greek words μετα [meta] = after/beyond and Φυσις [phusis] = nature) is a branch of philosophy concerned with giving a general and fundamental account of the way the world is. Metaphysics is thus like the sciences in that it tries to describe the world, but it differs from these disciplines in its scope and fundamentality. Whereas the biologist is concerned with the nature of organisms and the physicist with the nature of bodies, the metaphysician is concerned with the nature of all reality. A central branch of metaphysics is ontology, the investigation into what categories of things are in the world and what relations these things bear to one another. The metaphysician also attempts to clarify the notions that figure fundamentally in our understanding of the world; these notions include existence, objecthood, property, space, time, causality, and possibility.

'Life' appears to encompass everything in existence - atoms display signs of life as does a star; they both move of their own accord and require energy in doing so.

I'd say that 'life' is simply a series of deviations, deviant from a state of rest, and relative to the capacity and capability of x object is a deviation from what it once was to what it is now.

[No0ne]

Well I have allready made a comment on the question of (what life is) view post's at

http://www.philosophyforum.com/forum...ng-life-4.html

[knownothing]

Originally Posted by Doobah47

'Life' appears to encompass everything in existence - atoms display signs of life as does a star; they both move of their own accord and require energy in doing so.

I'd say that 'life' is simply a series of deviations, deviant from a state of rest, and relative to the capacity and capability of x object is a deviation from what it once was to what it is now.

If this is true then wouldn't all of 'life' that which is known and unknown be in a constant state of becoming?

[de Silentio]

If this is true then wouldn't all of 'life' that which is known and unknown be in a constant state of becoming?

This by no means answers your question, and frankly I am out of line with this comment because it has nothing to do with either the post or your question, but it sparked a thought:

We live in a 4 dimensional world, the 3 dimensions of space and time. At any given time, looked at by itself and not in relation to other time, is not everything in a state of being, since it is completely and utterly static?

[knownothing]

That's pretty interesting, but a reality which is conscious becoming self-conscious, and creating a 4th dimension, is this idea of duality possible? However, I will say that time is in a state of being. It isn't really becoming, moving, or passing at all. Time always exists in the present moment. Time is where it is, in reality there isn't any future or past with time. Time is always manifested, the future and past are always unmanifested. So to say that your killing time is technically incorrect. Time is actaully killing you. We are going to pass but time will still be here. But we usually think it in a lopsided way, as if time is going to pass but we will remain. I think reality has an element of pure consciouness, I don't think it can look upon itself. How can it be self-conscious? How can it look upon itself?