What is life?

[Fido]

Originally Posted by 404erased

I agree with you. That life is a thing to be lived amongst ourselves. I feel like maybe you misunderstood me, like you thought I was saying death is the ultimate goal. But what I was saying is that life shouldn't be questioned in life because we will find the answer in death. Thus leaving more time to live, to witness, to be witnessed, to do good.

The problem is that we do die. Our brains do stop thinking. And we can't help but worry about death. And realizing that death is just the answer to life will put us at peace, and allow us to live uninhibited.

Death waits but we have to make life happen if we hope to have the end we want. When you are young it looks like a pile of different jig saw puzzles strewn all over the place. Making sense of it, finding the meaning in it is just something you have to work at. Kids very often piss life away without any sense of what it takes to make and raise kids. Go to a hospital or nursing home and ask them, or yourself why they are hanging on. The lives the old live never seem to have meaning when viewed from the perspective of youth. Each age has its own meaning. Don't look for death because you fear it. Don't run from death because you fear it. Facing life is the same as facing death. Every improvement in the situation faced by mankind is a defeat for death. Celebrate life first, and then get to work deserving it. Death must be easy because everyone can manage it. A life that is worthy, mythic, or heroic must be carved out of granite. Live that life and be great.

[404erased]

Originally Posted by Fido

Death waits but we have to make life happen if we hope to have the end we want. When you are young it looks like a pile of different jig saw puzzles strewn all over the place. Making sense of it, finding the meaning in it is just something you have to work at. Kids very often piss life away without any sense of what it takes to make and raise kids. Go to a hospital or nursing home and ask them, or yourself why they are hanging on. The lives the old live never seem to have meaning when viewed from the perspective of youth. Each age has its own meaning. Don't look for death because you fear it. Don't run from death because you fear it. Facing life is the same as facing death. Every improvement in the situation faced by mankind is a defeat for death. Celebrate life first, and then get to work deserving it. Death must be easy because everyone can manage it. A life that is worthy, mythic, or heroic must be carved out of granite. Live that life and be great.

You're right.

"We only have one form of infinity as people, and it is immortality, and all we can do to have that is to tap into existence in the form of other people."

I agree with that, but this article best explains what I was trying to talk about with my limited vocabulary and poor communication skills: Buddhism and Death

I realize I probably should not have even brought up death in a thread about life.. sorry about that.

[Fido]

Originally Posted by 404erased

You're right.

"We only have one form of infinity as people, and it is immortality, and all we can do to have that is to tap into existence in the form of other people."

I agree with that, but this article best explains what I was trying to talk about with my limited vocabulary and poor communication skills: Buddhism and Death

I realize I probably should not have even brought up death in a thread about life.. sorry about that.

Nothing defines death, but death does define life, if we let it.

[charles m young]

We all look for purpose in our lives, and I find that we create for ourselves purpose. Consider the origin of all existence: in the absence of something, we find nothing, and with the concept of nothing, something becomes its counter. These concepts give birth to thought with no purpose, and thus it creates it counter: constructive thinking. The thought of there being no matter creates the concept of matter. Thus in the absence of nothing there is something. So in all actuality, we have no purpose and therefore we will create for ourselves purpose. This is our reason to live. I hope this makes sense…

[Fido]

Originally Posted by charles m young

We all look for purpose in our lives, and I find that we create for ourselves purpose. Consider the origin of all existence: in the absence of something, we find nothing, and with the concept of nothing, something becomes its counter. These concepts give birth to thought with no purpose, and thus it creates it counter: constructive thinking. The thought of there being no matter creates the concept of matter. Thus in the absence of nothing there is something. So in all actuality, we have no purpose and therefore we will create for ourselves purpose. This is our reason to live. I hope this makes sense…

If anyone has to look for purpose they need glasses. You have arms, some one else hasn't. Give them a hand. You have youth. Some one else hasn't. Share yours with them. People don't need a reason to live. Instinct provides that. They need a reason to care since caring won't add a moment to life. I think the reason for caring is that it gives meaning to life, and that should be obvious, as life is the source of all meaning; but it is not always so obvious.

[<daleader>]

Life is what you make it based on how you live and what decision you make and how you allow others to influence you and how you observe and use what others do and try to do directly and indirectly and how much you learn from what you and others do and offer to do upon you! That is my guess!

[nameless]

"Life tortures..
some to Death,
some to Meth,
some to Ecstasy!"

[Paxton]

Should our Brains stop thinking, would we cease to exist?

I have, at a point, stopped my brain from thinking, incurred no thought whatsoever and kind of let myself be.

I remained in existence, but the truth of the self had no verification amongst naught.

If death is our brains ceasing thought, well it isn't very scary then.

The purpose of life is defined through your perception on existence. Should it be based on religious or social origins so long as you are able to express positive emotion in this purpose I believe it is one you should find foundation with.

No matter what, everyone's subjective view will define life's purpose. If you have found a purpose for your self that harms no others in the way then this would seemingly be a beneficial, or otherwise, a wise choice in purpose in life. For we live mainly for our own survival, and for the benefit of the survival of our loved ones. Should we harm others in order to achieve a purpose we are rejecting the idea that those we harm aren't as loved as those who we love.

[charles m young]

Excellent contribution to the conversation, Paxton. As for the portion on the brain ceasing to operate, this would not conclude your demise; people in a coma are alive; their body has a conscious separate from their mental conscious. Both conscious constituents are tied together and can communicate, however the body will survive without the mind, because of the potential to come out of comatose. Unfortunately, they don’t always wake up.

As for the purpose and effects of purpose, I totally agree. Believe what you want, but don’t hurt anyone in the process. This is a direct attack on the effects of the Muslim religion, (and I don’t even need to decapitate anybody to get the point across) their religion has divided, blinded, zombified, and killed thousands of people. I just heard on the news that a school was on fire in Saudi Arabia, and they would not allow the female children to leave or even to be rescued because they were not wearing proper Muslim attire. That is inhumane, morally wrong, and F-in retarded. They are also about to decapitate a woman because she was accused of being a witch. I am currently in Afghanistan, and I have seen the volatile, hate bred, ignorant and mindless violent nature that this ideology drives these people to bear. I have had friends die by the hand of their evil ideology, and I myself have even caught high velocity lead with my elbow. My point is, there is a better way, and we should pursue a better life style that will benefit all mankind.

[Fido]

Originally Posted by charles m young

Excellent contribution to the conversation, Paxton. As for the portion on the brain ceasing to operate, this would not conclude your demise; people in a coma are alive; their body has a conscious separate from their mental conscious. Both conscious constituents are tied together and can communicate, however the body will survive without the mind, because of the potential to come out of comatose. Unfortunately, they don’t always wake up.

As for the purpose and effects of purpose, I totally agree. Believe what you want, but don’t hurt anyone in the process. This is a direct attack on the effects of the Muslim religion, (and I don’t even need to decapitate anybody to get the point across) their religion has divided, blinded, zombified, and killed thousands of people. I just heard on the news that a school was on fire in Saudi Arabia, and they would not allow the female children to leave or even to be rescued because they were not wearing proper Muslim attire. That is inhumane, morally wrong, and F-in retarded. They are also about to decapitate a woman because she was accused of being a witch. I am currently in Afghanistan, and I have seen the volatile, hate bred, ignorant and mindless violent nature that this ideology drives these people to bear. I have had friends die by the hand of their evil ideology, and I myself have even caught high velocity lead with my elbow. My point is, there is a better way, and we should pursue a better life style that will benefit all mankind.

Before things get too political let me remind you of who is in whose country? Democracy is a defensive form of social organization. It offers the best defense with the least overhead. If we have chosen. No, we have not chosen in light of the facts, but had the decission made for us, to fight an offensive defensive war in Afghanistan which as you may know is hell on invaders; then I would not be crying about their morals, which may be wanting, but has everywhere in Islam served the cause of peace. Unless you choose to kill them all, and this is a heroic solution, then you will have to live in the same world as them. To do that without conflict you will have to limit contact, wall them in, and keep out of their affairs. Their lives may be nothing but **** by our standards, but they find them far superior to what we offer. So, don't get killed being a door to door salesman for a product no one wants. Quit being used by the rich. Quit being used by the imperialist christian ideology. Start thinking about making a deal with those people that will give them their land and their honor and give us our peace.