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Logic The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning. Mathmatics.

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Re: Fallacy of "can God make a rock not even he can lift?"

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Because life isn't binary,
But God isn't living. So that can't apply. Yes we may not be able to get to the heart of the issue, but it would a something to prove, not the truth of whether the cosmos were binary or not. Purely or partially. Although, I think that for something like God we should look at dimension, whether that will inevitably evoke a binaric system. But whatever.
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Re: Fallacy of "can God make a rock not even he can lift?"

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Then logically prove that logic is the correct method of attaining truth. If you can't do that, you can't say logic requires no faith.
Even if I could prove it, you would say that I needed proof that the proof was correct. So, there is no way to win with you. As I said, faith is belief without support. But there is a lot of support for the proposition that logic is the best way to find the truth. Therefore, logic does not depend on faith. And that is a proof I just gave you.
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Re: Fallacy of "can God make a rock not even he can lift?"

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Even if I could prove it, you would say that I needed proof that the proof was correct. So, there is no way to win with you. As I said, faith is belief without support. But there is a lot of support for the proposition that logic is the best way to find the truth. Therefore, logic does not depend on faith. And that is a proof I just gave you.
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2 a (1): belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2): belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1): firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2): complete trust

You can drum up support or evidence for anything, it will never constitute a proof as long as it allows for reality to falsify it, which it must since it concerns reality. There is a lot of evidence to support anything as long as you exclude the evidence which does not support it. As with the scientific method, a non existence of antithetical evidence does not constitute a proof, it is still falsifiable.

It is easy to win with me:either prove me wrong or admit you either do not know or that you are wrong.
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