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Thanks! I will be following along for sure. I also have a book with some examples of two premise sylogysms some being true and some being false. I'll post some tomorow if you'd like, to test us .edit: Was just wondewring if... 1 + 1 = 2 [Premise] + [Premise] = [Conclusion] then 1+1+1 = 3 is premise+premise+premise=conclusion, does the 3 indicate a stronger conclusion? Dan.
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That’s great! Bring 'em along! It’s a good thing you said that because I wanted to do the next thread on truth functional logic which is I think what you are talking about and I consider my favorite part of propositional logic. Also, on the 1 + 1 + 1 = 3, the 3 being a stronger conclusion than a 2. The sum of the mathematical statement (i.e. = 3) is just a conclusion in itself. It shows that all the premises have been incorporated and lend support to the conclusion by analogy. It doesn’t make it a stronger conclusion, so long as the conclusion follows from the premises. Also thinking about it, one of the biggest challenges will be cutting back on the material enough to where its followable and not cutting too much to where more elaboration i needed. We'll find out! |
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Also, If anybody has any requests on specific areas of propositional logic they want (or need), please tell me what you want and I’ll incorporate it into the symposia with more elaboration.
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VideCorSpoon, I think that you have made a mistake with regard to the role of argument. It is important to understand that a logical "proof" does not prove that the conclusion of an argument is true, but only that the conclusion is true when we assume that the premises are true, and it is quite clear that an argument does not prove its premises either. Therefore, the premises of an argument cannot support their conclusion, because the logical content of the conclusion is a subset of the logical content of the premises i.e. every deductive argument begs the question. The situation is even worse with regard to inductive arguments, because to the extent that the conclusion follows it does so circularly, and to the extent that it does not follow it is simply invalid. In other words, the premises of an argument cannot provide any support or good reason to think that their conclusion is true, a trivial consequence of elementary laws. I also think that you should study the difference between an equation and a deduction. In short, every equation is also a deduction but every deduction is not also an equation i.e. the set of equations is a subset of the set of deductions. The difference is to do with symmetry i.e. the relation of equatibility is always symmetrical whereas deducibility can be asymmetrical. For example, 1. If A = B then B = AThe first statement is always true whereas the second is not always true. In fact, the second statement is true, if and only if, A is equal to B (remember, every equation is also a deduction). Therefore, while 1 + 1 = 2, the following argument is invalid: Every dog is a mammal & Every mammal is warm-blooded = Every dog is warm-blooded The invalidity is clear since equative arguments, unlike deductive arguments, must always be symmetrical i.e. the conclusion must follow from the premises and vice versa. However, it is not the case that either of the premises is implied by the conclusion, and so your argument is a nonequative deductive argument. Therefore, the use of the equality relationship is invalid. Regards, Lee |
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| Syllogymnasium Quiz- Introduction Aristotle was the founder of formal logic. Yet he knew just hw weak it could be when it comes to persuading people. Properly reasoned arguments are often hard to follow, while poorly reasoned arguments often work by being emotive and appealing to people’s prejudices. Yet the formal logic of Aristotle developed was in principle quite simple. If you play close attention to it, you should be able to avoid error quite easily. Or so you might thing… So on with the game but, first, the rules which come from a form of argument know as the syllogism, which Aristotle formalized. All you need to know is one principle, the principle of validity, An argument is valid if and only if the conclusion necessarily follows from the premises. Here’s the most famous example… All men are mortal. Socrates is man. Therefore Socrates is mortal. As we see the conclusion follows the premises. This is a valid argument, which is not necessarily a true argument as this next example shows… All cheese is from the moon. Chocolate is a cheese. There for chocolate is from the moon. Cheese isn’t from the moon and chocolate isn’t cheese, but this argument is still valid. The validity of the argument is still intact even though the argument is false because, if it were true that all cheese is from the moon and at chocolate is a cheese, it would follow as sure as night follows day that chocolate is from the moon. Next… Vegetarians don’t eat pork sausages. Moby doesn’t eat pork sausages. Therefore Moby is a vegetarian. True premises this time but, the argument is invalid because the conclusion does not necessarily follow from the premises. Moby doesn’t eat sausages because of religious reasons that have nothing to do with vegetarianism. Also be prepared for a conditional sentence with an ‘if’ in it… same rules apply. If today is Tuesday, then I should be at work. Today is Tuesday. Therefore I should be at work. That’s all you need to know for the test… Dan.
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| Ok test time, here are ten syllogisms are they valid or invalid? Remember… An argument is valid if and only if the conclusion necessarily follows from the premises If man made global warming is really happening, then the polar ice caps will be melting. The polar ice caps are melting, Therefore man made global warming is really happening. If acupuncture tended to make people ill, then it would be foolish to try it. Acupuncture does not tend to make people ill. Therefore it is not foolish to try it. If I don’t get home by six, I’ll miss the news. Therefore, if I get home by six I won’t miss the news. If I work hard, I’ll pass my exams. Therefore if I don’t work hard I won’t pass. All men are bastards. Some bastards are attractive. Therefore some men are attractive. All politicians are liars. No person of integrity is a politician. Therefore no person of integrity is a liar. All human life is sacred. All God’s creation is sacred. Therefore all human life is God’s creation. Every person is a child of the universe. Every person is a being of light and hope. Therefore every being of light and hope is a child of the universe. No vegans are fish eaters. Some fish eaters are not vegetarians. Therefore some vegetarians are not vegans. Today isn’t both sunny cold. Today sunny, Therefore today is cold. Answers bellow, highlight to view... __________________________________________________ _______ They are all invalid..! I know, I know but I didn't make the quiz and it's quick and easy to mark youself this way... 0 mistakes = A 1-2 mistakes = B 3-4 mistakes = C 5-6 mistakes = D 7+ = Fail! __________________________________________________ ___________
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| Nocturne, Thank you for your comment, First, I’m glad that you posted. This is why I wanted to do this thread series. I think everyone knows bits and pieces of what logic is, but no one really has an idea of the structured formal logic system and how those bits and pieces go together. First, my reference to an argument was meant to be very simple because the premises thus conclusion formation is essential in translation in the proofs and I think that the average reader will not buy into the extended definition easily. This thread series is meant to be a simplified instruction manual. I agree with you that a logical argument does not prove the conclusion true, etc,etc,etc. But that is part of truth functional logic, which is going to be the next thread. You’re jumping the gun so to speak, but still it’s a valid comment. Also, a “proof” does not mean “to prove” in logic. A “proof” means a “logical calculation derived from inference and replacement rules.” That comes later though. That I should study the difference between an equation and a deduction, ok. They are both the same thing in logic, but still that needed to be clarified. Propositional logic is built off of equations (proofs) which derive from principles of deductions (inference and replacement rules). The rest of your comment relates somewhat to a tiny bit of one of the replacement rules, namely commutation. That comes later though. Your comments on symmetricality is jumbled logic, which is again one of the reasons why I want to complete this thread series. Debudding, That’s awesome, thanks. And I really like what you did with the white lettering for the answer key, can I use that method when I do my next thread? |
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Hold on a second guys, logic is not like math. Trust me on this one. If you guys want I can start a topic on proposition logic to clarify.
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