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Gottlob Frege November 8, 1848 – July 26, 1925 Friedrich Ludwig Gottlob Frege was a German mathematician who became a logician and philosopher. He helped found both modern mathematical logic and analytic philosophy with influence on 20th-century philosophy.

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Old 08-11-2008, 08:24 PM
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I don't think it dims the awareness, the thought object is always limited to potential that we have underlying anyways. Causality perhaps?

I really don't understand. It seems to me that thought objects don't parallel the reality we are in. Thought objects allow for reality to be something more in our minds. I dunno whether I mean spatially or semantically, not sure yet.
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Re: Thought-Objects

Yes, you are right that thought-objects are something else than reality. In our minds it takes the place of reality though, seperating the thought-object from reality in our thinking is impossible because thinking is making use of thought objects. So, when one has realised that reality is different from the thought-object it has at the same time defined in what ways it is different and those definitions are thought-objects. So, the new reality is a thought-object as well. The only way to allow 'reality' to be percieved is by not thinking because thinking makes use of the thought-objects and therefore percieving (which is an activity of the mind) is always a circulatory occasion because the thought-objects will take the place of 'reality' and therefore one percieves the thought-objects one had decided on before the fact.

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I dunno, your last statements seem contradictory.

And where are you dividing actuality from reality here?

"The only way to allow reality to be perceived" is a silly question I'd think because I thought reality was the perception of the environment, otherwise not perceiving is just actuality.
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No, I ca understand this would come across as a contradiction though. In reality it was an explanation of the existence of the situation, while pointing out where not to fall for the 'flat' world view and the paradox created by it. A paradox is a seeming contradiction; not a real one and you seem to think that the seeming contradiction is a real contradiction and therefore take it as 'false'.

I am going to start a topic on paradoxes because this will get us nowhere this way.
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