Bad celebrities

[philosopherqueen]

Why do we focus on Bad celebrities (ex. paris, britney, and lindsey), than on celebrities who help out and are good role models (ex. reese and madonna)?

[Aristoddler]

Because as humans, we'd rather see someone walk into a wall than watch someone walk around one safely.

Have you ever driven by a car accident without stopping or slowing to see if you could see a dead body?
Probably not.

Human nature is a disgusting thing sometimes.
Plus, watching Britney shave her head was funny.

[Justin]

Yeah, I agree with Ari. Television and media focus more on the negative stuff because people like it. Misery loves company type of thing. It's really too bad that so many people get so wrapped up in the garbage and problems of others.

On the other hand, you take some of the famous celebrities and place yourself in their shoes... My self, I couldn't stand people following me around with cameras all of the time. It would not only get annoying but I'd imagine it pushes some over the edge. It's probably not the bad celebrities as much as it is the people following them around trying to get a snapshot of their every move so they can turn in something juicy.

People idolize other people. The weak look up to those with money and status quo like it's something special. We're too wrapped up in possessions. Money is the dominating God. It's really a pity.

[Vasska]

Aristoddler and Justin already said it; because everyone likes to see it. That's why you've got so many disgusting shows on TV that get high ratings.

Anyhow calling Madonna a good rolemodel is a bit of a paradox, she might be less provocative then Paris, Britney and Lindsay, but still ain't a saint either.

People like Natalie Portman, Scarlet Johanson don't ever make the news with flashing their privates and anything. Natalie Portman even has an university degree. I'd rather call them role models.

[Wizzy]

God I hate Paris Hilton...

Well, it's not really the person Paris Hilton I hate (and not the hotel either), it's the hype around her, how young women look up to her etc. that I hate... Why would anybody want to be like her? She's not smart (I'm way to nice), she's not pretty (I don't think she is atleast, I mean, she's not ugly but she sure isn't beutifull), she hasn't done anything with her life apart from beeing in two porn movies, made a fool of herself and happend to be born rich...

We all love to see people screw up don't we? I love AFV because I get a chance to see people hurt themselves

It's just our nature, we love to see other people fail, screw up and get hurt but hate to do it ourselves..

[Justin]

Now, now Wizzy!... be nice!

In case you weren't aware, Paris Hilton's career is officially the 8th wonder of the world.

Before we slam that gavel, it's really difficult to understand why people do what they do and why they are like they are. I mean, she could simply be a product of her surroundings. It's difficult to understand without empathy. Paris, raised in a different family under different circumstances would be very much different.

On thing though, Paris is in a unique position to influence a lot of people. Hopefully she grows up someday to realize something very positive out of her life and use it to influence others in a very positive way. She's not a bad person, she's just lost like many of the rest of the world... difference is, she has the media following her around with cameras every time she does anything.

We've all done things we weren't necessarily proud of. It may not have been publicized like that of Paris Hilton however, everyone has done things that weren't necessarily kosher. No sense throwing stones whilst living in glass houses. When we judge someone else, we are really only judging ourselves.

[Aristoddler]

I'd like to see what some celebrities would have to say about this topic.
Ones like Calista Flockhart, Uma Thurman, Steve Martin, Robin Williams and Goldie Hawn who are all reported to be members of Mensa and have exceptionally high IQs...I'd like to hear what they have to say about celebrity madness and its' attractiveness to the nation.

Something I've always wanted to know...are there any Hollywood stars that hail from Holland?

[Vasska]

Originally Posted by Aristoddler

I'd like to see what some celebrities would have to say about this topic.
Ones like Calista Flockhart, Uma Thurman, Steve Martin, Robin Williams and Goldie Hawn who are all reported to be members of Mensa and have exceptionally high IQs...I'd like to hear what they have to say about celebrity madness and its' attractiveness to the nation.

Something I've always wanted to know...are there any Hollywood stars that hail from Holland?

Famke Janssen (Actress; X-Men Nip/Tuck)
Paul Verhoeven (Director; RoboCop, Basic Instinct)

Can't think of any others at the moment, but there were a few others.

[philosopherqueen]

Yes back in the day Madonna wasn't the greatest role model but at this point in her life she has become a better role model.

Reese Witherspoon is one of my favorite role models for the fact that she has always talked against the dumb blonde persona (jessica simpson). Yeah she was in legally blonde, but it was the fact that she showed that a "dumb blonde" could be a lawyer and bust that stereotype. I remember what she once said (may not be quoted to a tee),"Women in the past have tried so hard to get the right to vote, have equal opportunity, and to have the male population respect us as equals. Why should some women who think it is cool to act stupid, screw all that up for the women who really care about it."

Now, she was never in the lime light until her divorce to Ryan Phillipe.

That really upsets me.

[Vasska]

Originally Posted by philosopherqueen

Yes back in the day Madonna wasn't the greatest role model but at this point in her life she has become a better role model.

Someone who is almost 50 and has had so much cosmetic surgery, has had lesbian relationships, openly advocated against the catholic church, wearing fur at times and has joined the Kabbalah cult would not be someone I'd describe as a role model in contrast to Reese Witherspoon or Natalie Portman. Who are to our morals better rolemodels for boys and girls alike.