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Old 05-28-2008, 06:06 AM
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I would not say she is untalented ans shallow. She has been made this way. Anyhow, someone who gathers millions by singing generic songs would not be dumb in my opinion.
She is a terrible singer, but most people haven't heard her sing they've heard an audio plug-in called 'Melodyne' which is a frequency and timbre map for vocals or they watch her mime (to a track which uses a Melodyne). But that is just the tip of the ice burg, the actual composition of songs (the hard part that requires real work) is done by a range of writers and composers- I met one in a guitar convention, his name was Eric Roach. He is the one who gathers millions by doing a job he recognizes as 'wrong'. Britney hasn't got a clue, her career starts like most of the plastics- in the Mickey Mouse Club, and goes on from there as they become old enough to be utilized as sexual objects for selling the music of people like Eric Roach. If she was so smart she would realize that she gets peanuts compared to the producer, promoter, writer, publisher etc. Some times as low as 0.3-0.7 pence (not even a penny) per album while the retailer get's £5.00, I think it speaks for itself.

She doesn't realize what she is or what she does, and is on par with the 'it' girls like Paris and Tara; Madonna is the same. Art for arts sake not for money!

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The South Park episode 'britney's new look' suggests that the people 'choose' a celebrity to molest with attention and that the goal is to kill the chosen celebrity, brilliant episode. It is the subtle things like- Britney shoots her brains out with a shotgun but survives , that quietly suggest, underneath the violence, that Britney has no brains to be shot out. She continues her career missing 3/4's of her head and a wonderfully accurate depiction of her MTV awards performance unveils.

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I was wondering when someone would mention that...That was also the whole reason with the Hannah Montana post!!!!
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HA HA HA, I forgot the Hanah Montana bit!
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She is a terrible singer, but most people haven't heard her sing they've heard an audio plug-in called 'Melodyne' which is a frequency and timbre map for vocals or they watch her mime (to a track which uses a Melodyne). But that is just the tip of the ice burg, the actual composition of songs (the hard part that requires real work) is done by a range of writers and composers- I met one in a guitar convention, his name was Eric Roach. He is the one who gathers millions by doing a job he recognizes as 'wrong'. Britney hasn't got a clue, her career starts like most of the plastics- in the Mickey Mouse Club, and goes on from there as they become old enough to be utilized as sexual objects for selling the music of people like Eric Roach. If she was so smart she would realize that she gets peanuts compared to the producer, promoter, writer, publisher etc. Some times as low as 0.3-0.7 pence (not even a penny) per album while the retailer get's £5.00, I think it speaks for itself.

She doesn't realize what she is or what she does, and is on par with the 'it' girls like Paris and Tara; Madonna is the same. Art for arts sake not for money!
As you say someone like Britney Spears gets into the Mickey Mouse Club and from that point on is brainwashed and used. It does not mean she was to be shallow. Talent comes in many different forms, and she is talented at some, less at others (singing and writing). It's sad that these kids are sacrificed for profit and mass satisfaction of seeing people rise and fall.

The Britney Spears we know today is someone who has been used and now is nothing more then a shadow of what she was. She will never be healthy again. I really feel sorry for her being made this way.

Others like Justin Timberlake and Christina Aqulaira were used in lesser extent and broke (partly) free of it.
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HA HA HA, I forgot the Hanah Montana bit!
I heard about her several times but saw nothing further; guess she is the new Britney of 2008?
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Art for arts sake not for money!
Just have to put in: That's usually my argument for downloading, if you only do art for money, you shouldn't do art...

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Everyone should say what they like if it is based on facts and not just some rambling. Neo-Nazi's, Religious fundamentalists and others are just plain wrong in their ways. So can celebrities like Tom Cruise with his Scientology Craze. If you are a teacher you should not say that Hitler was the best thing that happened to the world. Famous people are unfortunately for many people teachers and should act accordingly
well... Yeah sure it should be based on facts but I would never want to live anywhere where there's ANY kind of limitation to what we can say.. That appiles for the "political correctness" stuff too... It's not up to the person speaking to make his limitations, it's up to the listener to choose if he wishes to listen or not...
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I don't want that either. But famous people still need to understand that they are role models for many and should act like those. Of course the listener should make the choice to listen or not, but it often ain't done.
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Then it should be the role models who teach their listeners the choice to listen or not to. As if that's ever going to happen
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Then it should be the role models who teach their listeners the choice to listen or not to. As if that's ever going to happen
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Guess the majority of people are doomed. So don't mind me if I'm gonna sing the doom song now!

Doom! Doom!


DOOOOOOOM!


Doooooooooooooeeeeeeeeem


Doom doom

(Sorry, I'm plagiarizing Invader Zim. I'm bad that way.)
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Re: Bad celebrities

It is human nature to be enraptured by the obscene. Even the term 'Celebrity' has conotations of Andy Warhol's 'fifteen minutes of fame' Idea. These people wanted to place themselves up to the crutiny of the nation, be that from 'reality TV' or from their own hard work.
Also, the masses are a fickle beast, we like to watch someone rise from obscurity, through adversity to being thrust in the public eye, then fall, followed by the inevitable trial-by-fire and public character assasinations by the tabloid media.

This is the nature of the beast we call fame. It is to their shame that they are happy to spend $27,000 on a coat and not have the forsight to use their resourses for the greater good (Like Angelina Jolie does, she REALLY works for the poor in the third world, and DOESN'T always insist on being on TV doing it).
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