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Originally Posted by No0ne  Yet for my to portray another point of view of (B)...
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When a fetus or child can do these thing's, that's when you no longer have the right to destroy your own creation. (number 4&5 are the most important!)
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Originally Posted by No0ne 1. You must perceive light for there to be light.) |
False. I am blind and I live in a cave away from the sun, thus there is no light, I cannot see it and I cannot feel its burn. I do understand the concept when compared to sound though and I can operate objects which use it to change things which I cannot percieve. Thus I cannot percieve light, but I can use it to ends which I also cannot percieve, however it might be percieved externally, by others, thus I am not human as I do not percieve as humans do.
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Originally Posted by No0ne 2. You must perceive sound for there to be sound.) |
False. You must have ears to percieve sound. A hypothetical: I am deaf, thus there is no sound, but there are vibrations through matter, which constitute sound. Think about it.
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Originally Posted by No0ne 3. You must perceive pain for there to be pain.) |
True, pain is perceptual. But anything with a central nervous system can feel pain.
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Originally Posted by No0ne 4. You must perceive you exist before you exist.) |
False. That is a fallacy, an object must exist before it can function. Think about it.
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Originally Posted by No0ne 5. You must perceive time for there to be time. |
Perhapse, time is a human convention, however, is it unique to humans? Can you prove it?
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Originally Posted by No0ne If a child or fetus cannot do these function's, it is not a human... |
False, imbedded presumption:there is a trait among those listed that no other animal/ creature could have. Safer to stick with genetics and then to circumstance. Look at the reasons for the abortion, decide then. To enable such a method, simply place parameters on legality and alter by vote as needed. To facilitate, decentralize the legality to the state level. Groups will gather to each state which suits them. They will be bound by few constitutional laws and federal power will be limited. There is my answer.
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Originally Posted by No0ne But at the time a fetus or child can do these thing's it becomes a human..(mainly 4&5 due to the fact they come first before the rest.. due to the fact that the other's cannot exist until 4&5 exist) |
Well, 4 is false and 5 is iffy.
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Originally Posted by No0ne Those trait's are the soul(foundation) of a human... ) |
What?! why? Actually connect your disparate assumptions to come to your conclusion.
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Originally Posted by No0ne Or it could be deemed as a soulless(foundation-less) flesh awaiting it's soul(foundation)...) |
Eh...real life issues are not a place for metaphysics, which is a dead field anyway. Such a consideration is pandering to blatantly unlikely hypotheticals out of ignorant fear or convienience. History is riddled with the attrocities committed by those under the sway of metaphysical hypotheticals.
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Originally Posted by No0ne (all tho it's hard to tell when a fetus or child has become able to do these function's...So the answer to B is still cloudy..)
(This is the non-neutral side, that supports correctly done abortion's) |
Im aware that you took a hypothetical stance with this post, but maybe my analysis might be of use.