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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas If we take such a simple understanding of god, where god=life, then we do not need science to prove God's existence, such a thing would be patently obvious to everyone.
Yes, God is often said to be life, but God is often said to be many things. God is life, God is truth, ect - none of these statements are absolutely accurate, they all point to the inexpressible truth of God. That's the gist of how language around God usually functions. |
Well, I'm just a simple biologist so I note those things. Actually though, there is a depth of meaning there that is surprising.
One of the amazing things though is that if God does exist, it turns out that many of these platitudes will turn out to be very simply and literally true... at least about life if perhaps not truth... One of the reasons I wonder... See, I study life and my study of life processes was what led to the strange stuff I found. (I'll mention that I had no interest in studying Gods or religion, but a friend of mine pushed me into it. He hates religion. I was more than amazed at what I found by following the same thread of genetics that I have studied for so long.)
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas People can seek whatever they like, where ever they please. You can look for Death under a tree if you like.
People seek all sorts of things in religion - sometimes people seek alternatives to scientific explanations. |
Ultimately, religion is mostly about morality. Morality is about survival. Something else a biologist might note.
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas Doesn't mean that Christianity uses the scientific method to explain the development and existence of life. Religion tends to be concerned with coming to terms with the life we have. |
Yah, you have that right in trumps. Still, I think most things, the life we have included, are easier to understand and deal with if we understand them.
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas Well, I'm no scientists. And God is like a fictional character from a book. Scripture is literature, by the way.
Any scientists who tells you he is studying the nature of God, in a scientific manner, is a mad man. What would he observe? What data would he collect? |
Yah, but many fictional characters have some ontogeny in fact.
If someone wants to understand God, perhaps they should start with the closest thing we know of, humans. Humans must be well understood before an understanding of God can be developed.
The key to this question has to do with events during re-combination. You might not think that that would say much about God, but it certainly does. God has the same problems that humans have and has solved many of them the same way that humans will have to.
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas Christianity is not a religious belief. |
Uh.... OK, but I thought it was.
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas And I am not sure what probability you are projecting. |
The probability that God or more likely Gods, exist...(plural dependant on THE other QUESTION)
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas Depends on how you define metaphysics. And even then, you would have to answer some metaphysical questions, or at least make some metaphysical assumptions. |
Nope. No metaphysics. That's a hard part for most people to understand. Meta-physics means magic to me or something that science can never describe. This isn't even that hard to understand, though the idea that God isn't interested in magic does throw most people.
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Originally Posted by Didymos Thomas And I must doubt that you can arrive at God through any scientific exercise. But hey, I'll give it a hearing. |
Tell ya what, I don't answer that question directly these days, but if you were use Google or MS Live Search to search for instructions for Lobster Hunting, the first result could lead you to a detailed answer. No one has found a flaw in the reasoning so far.
I'll tell ya what, it freaked me out plenty when I found what I found... Still does.
It answers the 4 questions mentioned already, the third and fourth forbidden questions in science and the two objections to God...
1. Why do we have no evidence of God?
2. Why does God allow evil?
Yes that's pretty ambitious, but I answer clearly without resorting to the slight of meta-physics.
Gotta sleep. I hope you find it interesting.